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December 4th, 2015, 08:15 PM
#1
Blood Trail??
Hi everyone. I am new to this forum, and I need some help. I am currently being investigated and assume will be charged due to an incident that occurred about a week ago. I was deer hunting on property I was permitted to hunt on. I called in a small buck and using a crossbow, shot an arrow into his front shoulder as he was directly facing me. Not an ideal shot, I realize, but it was lethal. To make a long story short, the deer ran into the adjacent vacant lot (50 ft) away and died. I was then reported to the adjacent landowner by a "fellow" hunter who didn't want me hunting in his general area. The MNR came and I showed them exactly what happened, and was 100 percent cooperative. I honestly did not think it was a big deal. I didn't hide anything, as in my mind there was nothing wrong. Unbelievably, the canines were brought in and DNA samples were also collected (an amazing waste of government resources). I was then told I was not telling the truth, as the dogs are always right. I explained to the CO that sometimes when a deer is hit, especially the way I hit this deer, that they sometimes do not bleed for some distance. This wasn't possible in his opinion. So they took my deer, and now I am awaiting a court trial and it looks like a bunch of charges as they don't believe me. Frustrating to say the least. If any of you could share times you have not found any blood on a lethal shot, or, if you have had experience with this type of nonsense. Any advice or experience you could provide would help me defend myself. I am going to fight this to the bitter end. Thirty years of hunting and never even a warning! Thanks!
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December 4th, 2015 08:15 PM
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December 4th, 2015, 08:23 PM
#2
It would help if you describe the charges. Thing is even if you shot the deer where you had permission to hunt but it died on land you don't have permission to access you would be trespassing had you went to retrieve it.
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December 4th, 2015, 09:09 PM
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There should be hair on the ground at the location of where the deer was initially hit by the crossbow bolt.
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December 4th, 2015, 09:28 PM
#4
Yes, agreed. But the dogs track blood not hair, so it wouldn't make a difference to them.
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December 4th, 2015, 09:35 PM
#5
Sparky what are the charges you are facing?
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December 4th, 2015, 09:38 PM
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Not sure yet. They said that the crown would decide once all evidence was handed over. I am assuming trespass to hunt, illegal possession of deer, obstruction, lying to CO. Some, maybe all of these. All based on dog evidence. The dogs couldn't even find the trail of the deer past the gut pile where it was dragged to a trailer. Keep in mind none of this was in any way shape or form concealed from anyone.
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December 4th, 2015, 09:43 PM
#7
Going to be hard to beat the trespass charge. Did you tag the deer where it dropped?
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December 4th, 2015, 09:47 PM
#8
So....let me understand.... you shot a deer on property you had permission to hunt on and it died on the neighbours property? What happened next? Did you retrieve, tag the animal, gut it and then have the MNR show up while you are putting it in the trailer? Sorry but details are lacking
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December 4th, 2015, 09:58 PM
#9
Originally Posted by
fratri
So....let me understand.... you shot a deer on property you had permission to hunt on and it died on the neighbours property? What happened next? Did you retrieve, tag the animal, gut it and then have the MNR show up while you are putting it in the trailer? Sorry but details are lacking
Yup some of the details are missing. Feel the OP thinks where he shot the animal matters but I think that's a mute point.
Crossed the property line without permission....... that's a ticket
Dragged the animal back to your side before tagging.... that's a ticket
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December 4th, 2015, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
fratri
So....let me understand.... you shot a deer on property you had permission to hunt on and it died on the neighbours property? What happened next? Did you retrieve, tag the animal, gut it and then have the MNR show up while you are putting it in the trailer? Sorry but details are lacking
These are all valid questions that need to be answered. As far as blood goes I have arrowed deer (fatally) where I didn't find any blood for 100yds or more. I have also been bowhunting for 30+ years. TC