Kid's Education

I have 15 grandchildren - all but two were home schooled - all have either graduated from college(some with advanced degrees) or are in college at this time - the two that went to public school were boys who were very wrapped up in football so they thought that a public school would provide a better choice - but as time went by the parents of these boys realized that the public schools were going down hill - both boys were excellent students - the atmosphere in the public school was deteriorating with the input of ultra liberal thinking so they enrolled the boys into a Catholic school which had a very good reputation and also good sports teams - they even ended up buying a second home so that they could be closer to the school -

Both boys ended up getting an excellent education and also ended up playing football - both got full time football scholarships to division 1 schools - the one thing that the parents keep telling me was that the decision to send the boys to a Catholic school was one of the best decisions they ever made - when you read the crap that is going on in public schools these days you have to really be concerned about the harm that is being done to your kids by a bunch of progressive institutions

And yet the catholic schools are under attack here. Plenty of calls to defund them.


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It has to be the individual school and how its run. Around here the separate school, otherwise known as the Catholic school discouraged interaction between the kids from their school and the public school one block over. Half that separate school was French and their recesses were at a different time so they wouldn't interact with the predominantly english speaking students. Seems teachings of reading, writing and arithmetic was secondary to segregation. Can you think of any better way to foster bigotry and predjudice than a system like that?
Its standards like that that I have grown to detest the teachings of any church.

They’re being indoctrinated early up here too Joe.

Some school boards start the day with an acknowledgment that the schools are sitting on native land. At our kids school at a minimum it’s a part of the introductions at school assemblies.

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

They’re being indoctrinated early up here too Joe.

Some school boards start the day with an acknowledgment that the schools are sitting on native land. At our kids school at a minimum it’s a part of the introductions at school assemblies.

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Actually the whole country rests on native land. We only treated for a right to use the land for our purposes. On ceded land the rights to use it, for indigenous purposes have been extinguished, that doesn’t make the land any less theirs. Land ownership flows from the rights of first discovery and the Indigenous People as the word indigenous implies were here first. The term unceded land implies they have the right to use their land as they see fit, for their purposes. At least that is my understanding of the matter. Under Royal Proclamation, the rights on the land were to be treated for by the crown, third parties were to only purchase land rights from the crown after the rights had been treated for. Third party were not to deal directly with the indigenous people for land rights. The crown was also obligated to ensure that no third parties were supposed to encroach or interfere with unceded land without government clearance or license. Needless to say in the interest of extending this country from sea to sea. Some of the aspects of the Royal Proclamation may have fallen by the way side, and that why this country is in the mess that it is.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.

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Actually the whole country rests on native land. We only treated for a right to use the land for our purposes. On ceded land the rights to use it, for indigenous purposes have been extinguished, that doesn’t make the land any less theirs. Land ownership flows from the rights of first discovery and the Indigenous People as the word indigenous implies were here first. The term unceded land implies they have the right to use their land as they see fit, for their purposes. At least that is my understanding of the matter. Under Royal Proclamation, the rights on the land were to be treated for by the crown, third parties were to only purchase land rights from the crown after the rights had been treated for. Third party were not to deal directly with the indigenous people for land rights. The crown was also obligated to ensure that no third parties were supposed to encroach or interfere with unceded land without government clearance or license. Needless to say in the interest of extending this country from sea to sea. Some of the aspects of the Royal Proclamation may have fallen by the way side, and that why this country is in the mess that it is.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.

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I guess they got you too.

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I guess they got you too.

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But it wasn't the school system, that got me. It was set of volumes on the history of Canada. In fact I couldn't believe how I'd missed out on so much of the history of this country in the school system. By some good fortune at a yard sale in Ottawa I came across a copy of my grade five history text, Breast Plate and Buckskin, oddly many of the same facts in that text were the volumes , but they were in a one side presentation. You know, the type of history that gets written by the victors. The set of volume took a more open mind view involving the role of the indigenous people in the taming of this land. If you like they gave a more complete over view of matters. It relate the tyrannical hold King George III placed on his thirteen American colonies, by walling them in along the coast. He used colonist of the conquered French to the north, and indigenous people to the west. This contained his colonist from straying from the coastal plain which would have met a long supply line for the troops he used to hold the colonist in check. This, of course, allow him to heavily tax them. The Royal Proclamation 1763 was cleverly crafted with intent. Meanwhile the western wall that indigenous people presented actually held up until after the War of 1812.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

They’re being indoctrinated early up here too Joe.

Some school boards start the day with an acknowledgment that the schools are sitting on native land. At our kids school at a minimum it’s a part of the introductions at school assemblies.

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I found it amusing a couple years back at a fun fair down in one of the local parks in the, apart from all the cottage industries have booths to market their stuff. Some indigenous group had a booth set up as well, at the booth they had printed out and interesting take on the opening lines of the first verse of our national anthem:

Normal version goes: "O Canada our home and native land,"
The Indigenous version out went: "O Canada our home on native land,"

It reminded me of the then attempt to make it sexually neutral changing the line from:
"In all thy sons command,"
back to something close to the original wording:
" In all of us dost command."

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

We can’t all get what we want. Many people want any reference to god ,removed from our national anthem. ‘god keep our land glorious and free’ Hardly.😎