MNR sure messed up the moose hunt

I would love to know how they MNR came up with this 2 week calf hunt, they have some real problems in the office, they should have made it that a adult moose tag could be used on a calf anytime during the hunt, they are forcing hunters to shoot the cow and leave the calf? the MNR says hunters are more ethical than they used to be and people wont shoot the cow and leave the calf, they need to get out more, people pay big dollars on hunting trips and most people will shoot a cow with a calf only because the MNR is forcing them too. this is just ridiculous, a cow tag should be able to be used anytime during the hunting season on a calf so people can be ethical!

Wolves need to eat too!

If you want the population to go back up then stop shooting the cows and the calves.

Cancel the calf hunt, cancel the cow hunt and have a bull only hunt with a minimum number of points or minimum width as is the case in many areas of North America.

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Originally Posted by Fox

If you want the population to go back up then stop shooting the cows and the calves.

Cancel the calf hunt, cancel the cow hunt and have a bull only hunt with a minimum number of points or minimum width as is the case in many areas of North America.

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ding ding ding!!! Exactly. Protect the breeding aged cows and you will increase your herd. Until we accept that here we will never gain ground when you add in habitat destruction and unregulated harvests.

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Originally Posted by Fox

If you want the population to go back up then stop shooting the cows and the calves.

Cancel the calf hunt, cancel the cow hunt and have a bull only hunt with a minimum number of points or minimum width as is the case in many areas of North America.

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How someone in that office hasn't thought of this already is beyond me. Really is common sense, just have to enforce it.

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Originally Posted by revr

I would love to know how they MNR came up with this 2 week calf hunt, they have some real problems in the office, they should have made it that a adult moose tag could be used on a calf anytime during the hunt, they are forcing hunters to shoot the cow and leave the calf? the MNR says hunters are more ethical than they used to be and people wont shoot the cow and leave the calf, they need to get out more, people pay big dollars on hunting trips and most people will shoot a cow with a calf only because the MNR is forcing them too. this is just ridiculous, a cow tag should be able to be used anytime during the hunting season on a calf so people can be ethical!

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Not sure what you're trying to say,here,but,it ain't workin'. We can already use an adult tag on a calf anytime we want,but,if it was our camp and you blew an adult tag on a calf,you'd be out on your arse before supper and the boys would be helping you pack.....quickly. I don't believe a two-week delayed calf hunt is enough. The OMNRF should have cancelled the calf hunt,completely,with very limted Cow tags issued. They have been dragged,kicking and screaming to the realization that issuing calf tags with every license has done nothing but wipe out the breeding stock by adding to the predation factor of Wolves and Bears. It was a stupid idea,then,and it's even dumber,now,knowing what we know,to keep it up.

[QUOTE=trimmer21;914906]Not sure what you're trying to say,here,but,it ain't workin'. We can already use an adult tag on a calf anytime we want,but,if it was our camp and you blew an adult tag on a calf,you'd be out on your arse before supper and the boys would be helping you pack.....quickly. I don't believe a two-week delayed calf hunt is enough. The OMNRF should have cancelled the calf hunt,completely,with very limted Cow tags issued. They have been dragged,kicking and screaming to the realization that issuing calf tags with every license has done nothing but wipe out the breeding stock by adding to the predation factor of Wolves and Bears. It was a stupid idea,then,and it's even dumber,now,knowing what we know,to keep it up.[/QUOT

I don't think you understand what I am saying, in NWO the hunt can be from as long as the middle of September until late December, there is a 2 week calf hunt not a delayed calf hunt, so you cant use your adult tag on a calf anytime, you can in that 2 week period but that's it, not anytime during the rest of the moose season.

also, the MNR has changed the regs because they say there isn't enough bulls, they claim there are too many cows without calves, in many WMU's they have raised the cow tags and lowered the bull tags, this system is screwed, the reason for the low numbers of calves is predators, I work in the tourism industries and deal with thousands of fly in fisherman and hunters every year, and the number of calves that are seen taken by bears in the spring is startling, the way the MNR does the moose survey is horrible as well, they take kids out of the fire program and through them in a turbo beaver and fly around counting moose, most of these people come back sick, popping gravol because they cant handle the flying low level banking around, and until you have a good eye at finding moose from the air you will be lucky to see 20% of the moose below.

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Originally Posted by Gobbler_Hunter7

How someone in that office hasn't thought of this already is beyond me. Really is common sense, just have to enforce it.

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Well said. I hope the MNR is just trying this route to get a rise out of hunters and getting them to speak up about cancelling the calves and cows for awhile. I think a temporary hiatus on moms & tots would be a good thing until healthy numbers are reached.

PG 38 of the 2015 hunting regs, 2 week calf hunt, cant shoot a calf any other time of the moose hunt even with an adult tag!