QEWII (WMU 56) Hunting

Odd scenario. Got a camping trip scheduled for Sept 8th,9th,10th and i was thinking about doing some very light hunting (provided it's legal).


The reg's document seems to bounce around a lot for info on provincial parks and before actually taking a firearm in there I intend to call the MNR office in Minden.


But as best as i can tell. Rabbit/Squirrel is not open, Grouse not open, Morning Dove is (Migratory regs), Fox is, but it says to review provincial park rules and it says it's generally not allowed in provincial parks. But QEWII is one of the allowed parks as per page 28 of the regulations.


Basically i want to bring my Henry AR7 .22 into the park and am willing to hunt anything that is legal. (Taking rookies out). It is highly unlikely we will actually fire that gun, but in case i come across a warden.


I essentially want to teach some new folks the basics of hunting all while keeping it all legal. I'll have a gun sock for it although it will mostly be packed up in the stock the entire trip.


Any help clarifying the rules would be greatly helpful.

Although dove is open can't use a 22 on them. Shotgun only and nontoxic also.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Although dove is open can't use a 22 on them. Shotgun only and nontoxic also.

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Correct. Thank you for pointing that out. This is really more of an educational 'hunt' and i would only bring in 2 clips of ammo (16 rounds). Weight on an camping trip is a concern. As best as I can find my options are limited to Red Fox and Skunk. This is more of a firearms safety and nature watching 'hunt'....but I want to make sure everything is legal.

"It is highly unlikely we will actually fire that gun" verses " i would only bring in 2 clips of ammo (16 rounds)" . Doesn't pass the sniff test. Come on you really want to do some target shooting but just looking for an excuse to cover it.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

"It is highly unlikely we will actually fire that gun" verses " i would only bring in 2 clips of ammo (16 rounds)" . Doesn't pass the sniff test. Come on you really want to do some target shooting but just looking for an excuse to cover it.

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My pack weighs 57 lbs and there's no way in hell im adding 5 lbs to it for 16 shots and the whole 30 seconds it would take to shoot them into a target. I also have land that I shoot in every other week or so (not mine so no the newbies can't come with as I don't make the rules).


16 is a convenient number if you're familiar with that rifle.


Don't think for a second I wouldn't take a fox hide. Skunk not so much...


I'm unfamiliar with the rules of bringing a firearm into a provincial park so I'd like to understand the basics before I call the mnr office.


If you're not going to add value to this thread please disregard and continue about your day.

SpriteMcBain,

Here is the link for general provisions for provinicial parks (https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/070347#BK38), Section 35 reads:
35. No person shall use or display a firearm in a provincial park other than,

(a) a peace officer in the lawful execution of his or her duties;
(b) an employee in the Ministry or an agent of the Ministry for the purpose of wildlife management and control;
(c) a person lawfully hunting under the authority of subsection 9 (3) of the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997;
(d) a person authorized by the superintendent to use or display a firearm in a provincial park. O. Reg. 347/07, s. 35.

So you can't use or display a firearm in a PP unless it is for the purposes of hunting within the FWCA. You can bring it to a PP but it has to stay out of sight unless you are hunting.

Dyth

OK.

If you're lawfully hunting, then you're fine.

Save yourself the weight in your pack, and leave the rifle at home. Or re-schedule your trip for a couple of weeks when you can actually use it for hunting.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

OK.

If you're lawfully hunting, then you're fine.

Save yourself the weight in your pack, and leave the rifle at home. Or re-schedule your trip for a couple of weeks when you can actually use it for hunting.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

SpriteMcBain,

Here is the link for general provisions for provinicial parks (https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/070347#BK38), Section 35 reads:
35. No person shall use or display a firearm in a provincial park other than,

(a) a peace officer in the lawful execution of his or her duties;
(b) an employee in the Ministry or an agent of the Ministry for the purpose of wildlife management and control;
(c) a person lawfully hunting under the authority of subsection 9 (3) of the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997;
(d) a person authorized by the superintendent to use or display a firearm in a provincial park. O. Reg. 347/07, s. 35.

So you can't use or display a firearm in a PP unless it is for the purposes of hunting within the FWCA. You can bring it to a PP but it has to stay out of sight unless you are hunting.

Dyth

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Guess there is your value added answers

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Originally Posted by SpriteMcBain

My pack weighs 57 lbs and there's no way in hell im adding 5 lbs to it for 16 shots and the whole 30 seconds it would take to shoot them into a target. I also have land that I shoot in every other week or so (not mine so no the newbies can't come with as I don't make the rules).


16 is a convenient number if you're familiar with that rifle.


Don't think for a second I wouldn't take a fox hide. Skunk not so much...


I'm unfamiliar with the rules of bringing a firearm into a provincial park so I'd like to understand the basics before I call the mnr office.


If you're not going to add value to this thread please disregard and continue about your day.

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Just pointing out that your "I am hunting fox and skunk" is right up there with the "its coming right for me" excuse
https://youtu.be/B3RJUMm-hd0

Trust me the ministry doesn't like to be jerked around and it won't make for a good introduction for your newbies. Be upfront and honest about your intentions will go a long way to making your time outdoors more enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by SpriteMcBain

Odd scenario. Got a camping trip scheduled for Sept 8th,9th,10th and i was thinking about doing some very light hunting (provided it's legal).


The reg's document seems to bounce around a lot for info on provincial parks and before actually taking a firearm in there I intend to call the MNR office in Minden.


But as best as i can tell. Rabbit/Squirrel is not open, Grouse not open, Morning Dove is (Migratory regs), Fox is, but it says to review provincial park rules and it says it's generally not allowed in provincial parks. But QEWII is one of the allowed parks as per page 28 of the regulations.


Basically i want to bring my Henry AR7 .22 into the park and am willing to hunt anything that is legal. (Taking rookies out). It is highly unlikely we will actually fire that gun, but in case i come across a warden.


I essentially want to teach some new folks the basics of hunting all while keeping it all legal. I'll have a gun sock for it although it will mostly be packed up in the stock the entire trip.


Any help clarifying the rules would be greatly helpful.

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There's a comprehensive list in the schedule that specifies which PP's permit hunting under various open seasons. I'm pretty sure that QEII PP isn't on the list.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

There's a comprehensive list in the schedule that specifies which PP's permit hunting under various open seasons. I'm pretty sure that QEII PP isn't on the list.

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Queen Elizabeth II Wildlands is on the list of PP which allow hunting. Page 28 of the hunting regulations.