Permission for Deer Retrieval

There is a lot more laws involved with how this could have played out also if we knew the owner and were denied.....YES the landowner has to make every effort to retrieve the deer and have it processed properly or YES they can be charged.......

One thing I can say for sure, Osgoode Hall has nothing, and I mean nothing, on this thread! Mind boggling!

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Originally Posted by Deerslayer99

Well lets just say Trimmer 21 and Werner that $2350 plus victim surcharge fines were imposed for doing what a lot of you think is ok BUT isn't......long story short.....deer was shot on a property with permission....we tracked it and found it on another property who we had no idea who owned it...field dressed the deer and went on our merry way......the next day CO's and cops were all over us......all this for a simple trespassing and a deer involved......there is no set fine for trespassing, its whatever they want to impose.....so don't tell me someone sold me some Arizona swampland.....until you have it happen to you and know what the law is.....be quite about issues you can only assume on......

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So basicaly what your telling us is you got caught trespassing while retrieving a deer, then without getting permission to be on that land then you got what was deserved. Did you learn from it, I would hope so and hopefully word spread to your hunting friends that you just can't wander onto everyone's property without first asking for permission.

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Originally Posted by gooseman

So basicaly what your telling us is you got caught trespassing while retrieving a deer, then without getting permission to be on that land then you got what was deserved. Did you learn from it, I would hope so and hopefully word spread to your hunting friends that you just can't wander onto everyone's property without first asking for permission.

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BINGO!! I'd like to read the incident report on this one.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

One thing I can say for sure, Osgoode Hall has nothing, and I mean nothing, on this thread! Mind boggling!

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There's lot's of lawyers,judges and ex-LEO's on here that really know what they're talking about. There's also lots of other hunters and anglers that THINK they know. A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.

The LAND OWNER is NOT Responsible for game retrival .. he can let it rot and there is Jack the hunter or the co can do . the above case would have lots of fines tresspassing possesion of a illeagle deer transportation of a ileagle deer for each hunter involved they could confisacate your quad truck rifle ect anything involved in the illeagle act of the ileagle hunt .

also if a hunter shoots a deer and askes landowner to get deer and the owner says no and the owner gets deer they do not need a licence to posses a shot deer just a simple call to the mnr office to talk to a co and the deer is theirs

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

There's lot's of lawyers,judges and ex-LEO's on here that really know what they're talking about. There's also lots of other hunters and anglers that THINK they know. A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.

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The ex LEO's are the ones I will listen to, the others are just blowing smoke.

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Originally Posted by Deerslayer99

Well lets just say Trimmer 21 and Werner that $2350 plus victim surcharge fines were imposed for doing what a lot of you think is ok BUT isn't......long story short.....deer was shot on a property with permission....we tracked it and found it on another property who we had no idea who owned it...field dressed the deer and went on our merry way......the next day CO's and cops were all over us......all this for a simple trespassing and a deer involved......there is no set fine for trespassing, its whatever they want to impose.....so don't tell me someone sold me some Arizona swampland.....until you have it happen to you and know what the law is.....be quite about issues you can only assume on......

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The reference to swampland, I believe, was to your statement about the landowner assuming responsibility if they deny access, not that you could be charged/convicted for this. I think everyone here accepts that as the way the law works.

Also, I'd guess that your trespass fine was trespass to hunt, not simple trespass - because aside from the hunting aspect of it, you haven't posted anything that indicates you broke simple trespass laws (land was posted, standing crops, staying after being asked to leave- that stuff).

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Originally Posted by Deerslayer99

There is a lot more laws involved with how this could have played out also if we knew the owner and were denied.....YES the landowner has to make every effort to retrieve the deer and have it processed properly or YES they can be charged.......

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Are you talking deadstock disposal laws or EPA type laws? Can you quote an Act or section? Asking politely. Very curious as it may one day affect me.