does it not bother anyone the control over our everyday lives the government has over us? think about anything you can do that doesn't involve some level of government control or fee (re: tax)
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does it not bother anyone the control over our everyday lives the government has over us? think about anything you can do that doesn't involve some level of government control or fee (re: tax)
Thing is, these laws come about for our own protection because, drum roll please, somebody has done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bardern
I know they can do it for restricted.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Are you sure they can for non-restricted ?
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You seem to feel is perfectly acceptable, to purposefully drive towards someone in the dark, because it is fun for you, how absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
No, the fine would not likely be tossed, and your understanding of the legal system is poor. The MNR can not "toss" a charge issued by the OPP, nor would they do that if they could. I had to toss back numerous "overs" on the long weekend, and finding keeper fish was a grind but I did so. Some of the fish I tossed back where just barely over, but they where no good so back they went. Additionally, the OPP has a marine unit out performing marine duties, they are not going to be a part of general patrol out doing traffic enforcement. The problem with law enforcement is that no one wants you unless they need you, and if someone gets pinched they scream bloody murder that it's not their fault. The guy kept a fish over the slot size, he got pinched, he got a ticket, he can own it! I have zero sympathy. About as much sympathy as I'd have for myself if I got a speeding ticket while speeding. It's not the policemans fault that I have a lead foot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster29/66
Might seem absurd to you (no shocker there) but it sure gets the message across.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Canadians love 'Cradle to Grave'...we pay huge taxes to the government to ensure were are cared for from start to finish, so it is also in the best interest of society as a whole to 'govern' us with all sorts of rule and regulations...Quote:
Originally Posted by bardern
The beauty is, the freedom we have also allows you to pack up an leave it all behind if you don't want to participate....
Yup , and maybe you do it to the wrong person and then, get charged with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle because that is what you are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
This really has gotten quite a stir so mission accomplished by my original post. I would say it's 50 / 50 on if people think OPP should be wasting time in undercover fish stings or have them fighting serious crime like druggies child molestors and impaired speeding texting drivers. At the end of the day though is OPP responsibility to police based on safety of community.... So prioritize accordingly.
few points..
Jben takes really nice pics, he's taken enough of himself he is now genius enough to believe his words are gospel and no one shall disagree with his 170 IQ...
6 of the 8 fatalities are kayaks and canoes as is typical with boater drownings yet the OPP werent out educating or staking out them for life jackets.. ( more concerned with a fish ) might want to reconsider your mandate so people aren't justified in perceiving it as neglect of duty which is how I see it and how I'm entitled to see it and say it because we live in a free country with free speech because Canadians not long ago stormed beaches to lay their life on the line so we could live FREELY.
I have no issue with law enforcement doing surveillance for pedophiles, violent criminals and drug dealers as those are serious issues for society as are speeders and impaired drivers. However fish on the line should be left to the MNR or volunteers as I said earlier because when a boat is poaching it's pretty easy to report them to the CO who can deal with it. COs rely heavily on tips from the public to do their surveillance for them and that is why they treat anglers and hunters with respect so we have their back.
Look at the issue of police carding and how it is taking people lobbying politicians to get this pre war Germany pratice banned. Do you think if the police focused more on showing the public respect instead of harrassing peole over chicken they would get the same level of " tips " of who the bad ones on the block are ????
after all this I did see the young lad last night on the water... He confirmed just as we advised him that when he went to the JP the ticket was torn up and tossed.... I know this because I had a similar thing happen for not having a licence on me. In my case the JP said all I ever hear from the crown is our police are short staffed yet they have time for this.
for every angler here who feels there should be no level of discretion on fish measurements I have decided to start helping the OPP with the speeding issues and will start fwd video of any truck pulling a boats down the county road more than 10km an he over the limit hour As they pass me that I routinely get on my dash camera. I hope one of the morons on here who feels 1/4 of a fish is more important than speeders and road safety gets the first ticket.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time it happens.:rolleyes: I could be running into a sting operation. :whacked:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann