Some chatter on new gun bill

They are milking this, no surprise. Now seeing stories on emergency room staff, Leo, firemen all responders. Don't get me wrong these are all great people who make a difference but how often does media put the surgeons on front pages of papers. The biased media will wring everything out of this horrible tragedy. Adding more well paid cops won't help if when they do arrest criminals the judges turn them loose. They then return to the taxpayer subsidized ghettos and keep doing the same. It's time to get very tough and jail them. That means judges willing to do it. Building basketball courts won't change this demographic. This time it was 2 pretty white girls. If 2 young gang members had died I don't think they would have stories on emergency room staff.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Some have them because they are collectors, just as some collect " butterflies ",
A fellow I have known for years, has quite a collection of firearms both handguns and long guns, and prohibited, but has absolutely no interest in hunting or recreational shooting, It's just a hobby of his.

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Okay, so I missed mention gun collecting as a reason for owning a guns. Unfortunately there are so many other collectibles for the hobbyist, it still does off a substantive reason for running out and purchasing firearm. So besides hunting, recreational shooting and gun collecting is out their that the multitude of exurbanites should want or need a firearm. Yes, it seems there will always be the DUI, but that does really take anything away from the importance of the car as a greater necessity for individual than a gun it seems would ever be. So what other good reasons would necessitate more people seeing a need for owing firearms. Unfortunately for the most part our government has taken the idea of using firearms for protection of self and property, off the table, something those south of the line see as a real necessity for arming themselves. But we wouldn’t like to be like them. After all, to quote a well known source “ We Canadians aren’t like that.”


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

getting tougher on gun sales is easy to do with a stroke of a pen...getting tough on gangs and eliminating them would take more than a four year term for a politician. it would also bring up race, welfare and immigration issues which no politicians would ever go near. So gone are the guns for all....but the gangs.

What, are no gangs made up of those born and bred here? :scream: When they are born here, (many 3rd, 4th generations), immigration discussions are redundant. If they are Canadian , they are 'us' , therefore we cannot blame it on 'others'.... Fix the root problems, no one (race), is born 'bad'.:sad:

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

getting tougher on gun sales is easy to do with a stroke of a pen...getting tough on gangs and eliminating them would take more than a four year term for a politician. it would also bring up race, welfare and immigration issues which no politicians would ever go near. So gone are the guns for all....but the gangs.

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The politicians and cops know that it is easier to go after legal citizens than the criminals/gangs as they only laugh at the laws and don't give a damn.

The federal government won't be doing anything new before the next election.

It will be interesting to see if the Liberals feel handguns are a wedge issue they can use to beat up Scheer.

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Originally Posted by welsh

It will be interesting to see if the Liberals feel handguns are a wedge issue they can use to beat up Scheer.

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Who's Scheer???

I fully expect them to introduce an Aussie type model. And I bet they can win an election with it.

G, stats are a funny thing, that anyone can spin, twist, cherry pick to suit their agenda etc.

Eg.
Race crime stats are a no-no
Race victim stats, well we like those.

There’s something about the stats commonly referred to that “bothers” me, but I can’t put my finger on it. Likely because I can’t be bothered to spend the time rooting through things for clarity.

The left, the RCMP, the fear mongers, journalist ( I use that term with much sarcasm, because actual journalist are few in number. Most are hacks with agenda's that cherry pick, twist, tell half truths, and disregard anything that doesn't fit their narrative these days)..., GC control advocates etc.

Keep referring to “domestically sourced”. And they keep harping on “50” percent.

Well that’s opinion (interpretation of data), more accurately supposition for starters, because in fact it’s only 14%. And it’s only 14% because, they can only trace 28% of “guns” ( which does include air guns and possibly replicas”

The other 72% are source unknown...........

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Guns crimes, include everything. In short if a gun is in some shape or form part of a crime it’s captured in the stats. If I waive a replica at you (pointing a weapon) it could very well be captured.

But why would a weapon that’s “a gun crime weapon” be untraceable?

Two main reasons I’m thinking.

1:Serial # filed off
2:The originating source doesn’t record them.

Take a hand gun.
Well if a gang banger files off the serial #....

1) where’d it come from?
2) what good is the registry?

Then to, what types of "crimes" and weapons would people be unlikely to file off serial numbers, seek to buy or acquire untraceable weapons....Domestic crimes? Long guns........????

Gee, lets pad that 14% shall we

Spin spin spin spin spin.
All depends on ones interest in the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Most everyone, from the cops, to Tory to Goodale, know that Toronto’s problem is gangs. They even acknowledge that 90% of “gun crimes”....are gang related...

Spinning wheels

Reality is, a large proportion of crime guns that are not traced are ... long guns.

The police don't bother tracing long guns. And they are almost exclusively domestically sourced.

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