Climate change ?? Really?

If people think taxing the air is going to save the planet, or make a difference. Think again. Say what you will about activist (good or bad). Say what you will about L/R (good or bad).

Makes me laugh hard when people fall for the feel good gas clouds put out by the naïve idealist, and politicians.

How much more evidence do people need that they talk out both sides of their mouths.
The cost of closing Pickering Nuke Gen, and green champions and her supporters (over and above everything else).

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...-polluted.html

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Originally Posted by Maximus44

They should rename it "global pollution" and work on cleaning that up. Rather than Trudeau somehow keeping the planet's temperature rising 1.5 degrees instead of 2 degrees.........

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And what of this 2 degrees? 2C is about 1/2 the difference between the yearly average temperature in Ottawa and Toronto.

Could also mean a slightly longer growing season here in Canada. It's warmer this winter than it was last winter. Less money spent plowing and salting, this is bad how again?

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Originally Posted by JBen

How much more evidence do people need that they talk out both sides of their mouths.
The cost of closing Pickering Nuke Gen, and green champions and her supporters (over and above everything else).

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...-polluted.html

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This is a classic case of politicians trying to take credit for and espouse their "green energy" nonsense with the closure of Pickering,even if it's going to take 10 years to complete the shut down. That thing is as out-dated as Chalk River,worse than any other and would cost 15X the highest estimate to refurbish than to build a complete new station. That was never going to happen,no way,no how,no matter what government was in power. Even Bruce Nuclear,the most successful privately-owned company on the continent, wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. A Liberal goverment crowing about being responsible for the "green" closure is flat out BS.

See also what's occurring on and to the Morraine Terry so I wouldn't celebrate the slightly warmer winters just yet. I'm sure the 407 all the green people want is going to help to.

Not sure how the lack of a snow pack will help water tables and aquafiers. So yup, lets tax the air and misdirect the voters away from....

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

The 1950's were actually pretty warm. The ice age fear was in the '70's after the long, cold and snowy 61-72 winters.

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Although the Ice Age Fear was mostly in the popular media, and most of the research pointed towards a warming trend globally with CO2 getting pegged as a contributor to keep an eye on.

The American Meteorological Society did a paper on the whole popular phenomenon in 2008:

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1


The possible effect of CO2 on the earth's climate and rising global temperatures was even discussed in Scientific American in 1959:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/me...959-carbon.pdf

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Originally Posted by JBen

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...-polluted.html

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Highlights a few problems for sure. It would be interesting to read the report. A friend works for the MOE, and has said that they are limited in their ability to hold up certain projects for environmental reasons. Pressure comes from the top, and they don't have sufficient mechanisms in place to demand a more thorough review. As long as the company has a detailed plan that matches current requirements, it's essentially good to go.

Also, I don't know what the E. coli in the shallow wells would have to do with the construction. E. coli and coliforms in general show up from fecal contamination, and are usually surface contaminants. Without knowing the state of the wells in question, state of the occupants septic setup, and information on the land use adjoining those properties, it is a bit of a distraction.

I never thought much about climate change and it effects until I started watching National Geographic shows on the polar bear.
The ice cap has shrunk by 1/3 . The bears have to swim many kilometres to find ice where a seal can be taken through the ice. Cubs are drowning as they can't swim that far. Male bears are eating cubs as food is so hard to find.

One could say who cares about the polar bears, but I hate to see a species wiped out due to climate change.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

I never thought much about climate change and it effects until I started watching National Geographic shows on the polar bear.
The ice cap has shrunk by 1/3 . The bears have to swim many kilometres to find ice where a seal can be taken through the ice. Cubs are drowning as they can't swim that far. Male bears are eating cubs as food is so hard to find.

One could say who cares about the polar bears, but I hate to see a species wiped out due to climate change.

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Not trying to sound like I don't care about polar bears but if at some point they actually were to disappear it would be part of this planet's evolution. Our world has gone through multiple climate periods where species have died off. Not many wooly mammoths or dinosaurs around anymore and none of this was a result of man. The black duck is being wiped out by mating with another specie. At some point mankind will likely be wiped out. The reality is yes of course we have a negative impact on the environment but it is beyond arrogant to think we can control climate. When I see imbeciles like our PM negotiating 1.5 vs. 2 degree global climate changes it makes me laugh. These narcissistic twits feel they control nature. If they ever Find a way to cool the sun and adjust our planetary orbit then maybe, just maybe we can have an effect on climate. The North Pole may be shrinking but Antarctica is growing. Of course there is climate change. It's a never ending process. As much as they try to blame Conservatives for climate change they didn't cause the Glaciers to melt yet they did. :ninja: Let's call it Global cleansing and clean it up and stop telling people the end is near. Taxing everything that moves and giving montey to dictators and despots will never reverse the pollution we produce. Climate change is the Left's biggest and most successful scam. It's a damned religion now, at some point Islam will probably target it as an enemy too.

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Originally Posted by terrym

It's a damned religion now, at some point Islam will probably target it as an enemy too.

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Maybe,there's something redeeming about Islam after all.LOL On a side note,I find it curious that the polar ice cap on this side of the north pole is shrinking,but,it's expanding on the other side. Santa may have to move his operation to Russia or Norway. Geez,there goes another out-sourced operation.