Anyone managed to have trespassers charged?

If I shot a deer and it runs onto private property that is posted - I'm going in for it - what are the chances that the owner is around to even see me - if by chance he sees me I'll tell him that I shot a deer and it ran onto his property - I don't want the deer to suffer or die and sink up the place - now he can be a dick and get all upset and may even call the cops - if he does that he's got one angry hunter who he will have to deal with in the future - if he tells me that he doesn't want anyone hunting on his property but will let me get the deer I would tell him that I appreciate it - may even offer him some meat - for someone to refuse a hunter to get a wounded deer on their property is a real - what is the harm anyway - why can't people be nice to each other rather than making things hard - when neighbors don't get along it is not a good situation because things can happen where they need help from each other - neighbors living next to each other and not getting along could be very stressful and unpleasant -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

If I shot a deer and it runs onto private property that is posted - I'm going in for it - what are the chances that the owner is around to even see me - if by chance he sees me I'll tell him that I shot a deer and it ran onto his property - I don't want the deer to suffer or die and sink up the place - now he can be a dick and get all upset and may even call the cops - if he does that he's got one angry hunter who he will have to deal with in the future - if he tells me that he doesn't want anyone hunting on his property but will let me get the deer I would tell him that I appreciate it - may even offer him some meat - for someone to refuse a hunter to get a wounded deer on their property is a real - what is the harm anyway - why can't people be nice to each other rather than making things hard - when neighbors don't get along it is not a good situation because things can happen where they need help from each other - neighbors living next to each other and not getting along could be very stressful and unpleasant -

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Unfortunately it comes down to the fact that we live in a society and as such we do have a set of rules to abide by. In your scenario you know the land is posted. Did you discus with your neighbor the possibility and ask for permission just in case? If still denied did you seek legal recourse just in case? Guess you could be a dick and do what ever you want but the onus is on you to do the legal thing and in some cases it might not be the right way but the right way is only in your perspective.

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Originally Posted by benjhind

I'm glad you have that ability. In my area, a typical 100 acre farm is 440 x 1100 yards, which means the farthest you can possibly be from a property line is 220 yards. I've seen deer run 400 yards on a clean double-lung broadside shot with a muzzleloader. Sometimes things don't go to plan and I've been lucky enough to retrieve deer a mile from where they were shot. It isn't always possible to guarantee that a deer will drop on land you have access to in my area. I give the "no-go" property a healthy 300 yard setback, which I feel is sufficient for due dilligence. Unless you have permission on every acre within a mile, I doubt many hunters in the southwest can guarantee the ability to retrieve a deer.

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I fully understand your position I have my food plot basically dead center in my 200 acre parcel, not by design by the way but by happen-chance. The longest I have seen a deer I shot was 100 yards but I,am using rifle and most all my targets are standing still.

I have never used a hunted with a muzzle loader but have used one and I am surprised at the distances your deer are running.
There are a few 100 acre blocks in my area split into 10 acres in the old days to make more money for the sellers.Guys do hunt them but definitely not for me as the frontage is only about 130 feet or so.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

If I shot a deer and it runs onto private property that is posted - I'm going in for it - what are the chances that the owner is around to even see me - if by chance he sees me I'll tell him that I shot a deer and it ran onto his property - I don't want the deer to suffer or die and sink up the place - now he can be a dick and get all upset and may even call the cops - if he does that he's got one angry hunter who he will have to deal with in the future - if he tells me that he doesn't want anyone hunting on his property but will let me get the deer I would tell him that I appreciate it - may even offer him some meat - for someone to refuse a hunter to get a wounded deer on their property is a real - what is the harm anyway - why can't people be nice to each other rather than making things hard - when neighbors don't get along it is not a good situation because things can happen where they need help from each other - neighbors living next to each other and not getting along could be very stressful and unpleasant -

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What you are telling us is that you are fully prepared to break the law by sneaking into private property to retrieve a deer. The landowner would be a "dick" if he called police. But you have posted previously YOU have no problems calling the police when it suits you.A previous post has you suggesting if a hunter tried to keep you off Crown land you would ask for his hat so that you could c---
in it and you must stick up for your rights.Well what about the rights of the private property owner.Do you not see the hypocrisy?

I have posted your game laws down in your State in relation to this topic and they are pretty much the same as up here.

"Recovering Dead or Injured Wildlife: It is unlawful for a hunter to refuse or neglect to make a reasonable effort to retrieve any killed or injured game or wildlife. Hunters attempting to recover wildlife are not permitted to enter private property without permission. A hunting license does not give you the right to trespass on private property."



P.S. Joe you being a elder statesman for hunting would it not be better if you tried real hard to guide new hunters on here who are looking for mentors to give them better advice that what you are giving out.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

What you are telling us is that you are fully prepared to break the law by sneaking into private property to retrieve a deer. The landowner would be a "dick" if he called police. But you have posted previously YOU have no problems calling the police when it suits you.A previous post has you suggesting if a hunter tried to keep you off Crown land you would ask for his hat so that you could c---
in it and you must stick up for your rights.Well what about the rights of the private property owner.Do you not see the hypocrisy?

I have posted your game laws down in your State in relation to this topic and they are pretty much the same as up here.

"Recovering Dead or Injured Wildlife: It is unlawful for a hunter to refuse or neglect to make a reasonable effort to retrieve any killed or injured game or wildlife. Hunters attempting to recover wildlife are not permitted to enter private property without permission. A hunting license does not give you the right to trespass on private property."



P.S. Joe you being a elder statesman for hunting would it not be better if you tried real hard to guide new hunters on here who are looking for mentors to give them better advice that what you are giving out.

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X2 - was thinking the same thing!

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Originally Posted by Quack_Kills

X2 - was thinking the same thing!

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3x - I was as well.

That JoePa. Always has something dumb to say. At least he is being consistent.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I have never used a hunted with a muzzle loader but have used one and I am surprised at the distances your deer are running.

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400 yards is nowhere near typical, but it happens. In this instance, it was a high double-lung shot on a mature buck with a 240gr Hornady XTP. He was running on wheat ground (easy travelling), but you can imagine after 400 yards even a reasonably well-placed shot can result in a deer crossing multiple property lines. The mile example was a liver-shot deer. More typically, deer go down within 150 yards.

I live in a 400 acre bush shared by 20 landowners. I own a small piece and get along well with my neighbours, so tracking isn't an issue. However, if an anti-hunter moves in next door, I guarantee that I will continue to hunt. I will be paying the mortgage for many many years, so I intend to hunt the land I have worked so hard for.

No I wouldn't ask the neighbor ahead of time - if I could go on his property to get a wounded or dead deer - because if he says no than I don't have any excuse if he should catch me - this way I can always said that I thought he wouldn't mind - sounds pretty smart to me - no so dumb after all

Remember they thought what's his name was dumb because he was saying that the earth was flat - then years later they found out that he was right -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

No I wouldn't ask the neighbor ahead of time - if I could go on his property to get a wounded or dead deer - because if he says no than I don't have any excuse if he should catch me - this way I can always said that I thought he wouldn't mind - sounds pretty smart to me - no so dumb after all

Remember they thought what's his name was dumb because he was saying that the earth was flat - then years later they found out that he was right -

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Yeh pretty dumb there is a principle in law called 'WILLFUL BLINDNESS' and this is what your exercising here.You don,t have an excuse if he catches you as your State law prohibits you from trespassing .


"remember they thought what's his name was dumb because he was saying that the earth was flat - then years later they found out that he was right -[/QUOTE]

Maybe the earth planet your living in is flat but I,am pretty sure the one I,am on is round.