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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Let's say Mosquito what you just wrote was 100% true,lets play out the next election scenario.

" Hello fellow Canadians my name is Erin O'Toole and I m running to be the next Prime Minister of Canada,I know your upset about the economy and the future as myself and my party.But I would like to address you on a much more important matter GUNS, yes folk's GUN'S are on the top of my mind.Now I am not talking any old guns, I,am talking semi automatic assault rifles.

I know you are fearful about terrorist attacks as we have seen in Europe and School shootings,Mosque shootings,and our very own Mass shooting's here in Canada.

But don't worry be happy, I want to keep my pledge to the Canadian gun owner's to reinstate their ownership of all types of guns and this will be my top priority.What do you think of me so far.

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I think the people with even a pea size brain will remember the lies and corruption from our tyrant liberals.
All as Erin has to tell people is that nearly 2000 types of guns were banned from licensed owners for public safety and the shooting have increased across the country because the Trudeau government refuses to take responsibility when it come to tackling crime. They would rather attack responsible licensed owners because liberals lie to the sheep to buy the cowards and criminals vote.
The gullible and criminals are the only people that vote liberal...lol

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I see multiple arrests all the time by my local police and others in the GTA,gun's seized,drugs, Toronto just took down two shooters last week at the Bay Street Canadian Tire,they had on them 3 handguns,up to 28 charges and counting ,both suspects did at least 3 shootings...

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They are doing a great job they also just took out a large gang population. Well I think 33 from the same one lol.


Hopefully those 2 are not back out on the streets already.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Let's say Mosquito what you just wrote was 100% true,lets play out the next election scenario.

" Hello fellow Canadians my name is Erin O'Toole and I m running to be the next Prime Minister of Canada,I know your upset about the economy and the future as myself and my party.But I would like to address you on a much more important matter GUNS, yes folk's GUN'S are on the top of my mind.Now I am not talking any old guns, I,am talking semi automatic assault rifles.

I know you are fearful about terrorist attacks as we have seen in Europe and School shootings,Mosque shootings,and our very own Mass shooting's here in Canada.

But don't worry be happy, I want to keep my pledge to the Canadian gun owner's to reinstate their ownership of all types of guns and this will be my top priority.What do you think of me so far.

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Let's say that you we look at the reality and use logic and evidence... oh wait...

"We now have the proof in the briefing note presented to Trudeau on April 24 by National Security Advisor Vincent Rigby.

“The RCMP has confirmed that the suspect did not have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate,” the memo reads, using the old term for a gun licence.

The memo goes on to detail how Wortman had a Colt Law Enforcement Carbine sourced from a gun shop in California and smuggled into Canada as well as two pistols smuggled in from Maine. He also had a Ruger Mini-14 sourced to a Canadian store, but the memo doesn’t say how Wortman obtained it since he would not have been allowed to legally buy it in Canada."


Let's take a step back and imagine... I mean just suppose that Trudeau and Bill Blair told the truth....

• there would be about $100B not spent and 2019 would be a balanced budget.
• Openness and accountability and respect would be shown ... but aren't
• vets would have got millions into their budget and the convicted terrorist would still be in court.
• an indigenous woman would have kept her job as Attorney General, Phillcott and Caesar-Chavannes and other women treated fairly
• airport screening would have started 2 months earlier and there might be as many as thousands still alive that died from COVID
• At least a few of the 2,000,000,000 trees would have been planted.
• There wouldn't be .22 and 410 firearms on the banned list.

etc. etc.


just pointing out another Liberal virtue signalling while ignoring real issues that require fixing. I really hope as more and more information comes to light about the Liberal's policies and decisions and agendas that there will be a light at the end of the dark tunnel we are in. People need to take responsibility for their decisions and actions and who they vote for ...


“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell

When a people are ignorant of history, disregard the implications of their votes and choices that is where we get parties like the National Socialists of 1930's Germany elected and others.... heck they are even ignoring what the Liberal's are openly saying and making things up that fit their ideology not the ideology of the politician.



https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ts-80-suspects
Last year they arrested 80 and seized 23 firearms, drugs etc. ... and this year is worse than last for firearm violence (with illegal firearms).... most were likely free by this year.... I believe it was Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders that referred to the revolving door in regards to gangs.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Because firearm owners are the most well-trained,investigated,surveiled and vetted citizens in the country as a condition of ownership,there should be ZERO restrictions on whichever firearm they choose to own. I'd vote ofr a candidate who was intelligent enough to realize and understand the concept of freedom and liberty in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

I think the people with even a pea size brain will remember the lies and corruption from our tyrant liberals.
All as Erin has to tell people is that nearly 2000 types of guns were banned from licensed owners for public safety and the shooting have increased across the country because the Trudeau government refuses to take responsibility when it come to tackling crime. They would rather attack responsible licensed owners because liberals lie to the sheep to buy the cowards and criminals vote.
The gullible and criminals are the only people that vote liberal...lol

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Originally Posted by mosquito

Let's say that you we look at the reality and use logic and evidence... oh wait...

"We now have the proof in the briefing note presented to Trudeau on April 24 by National Security Advisor Vincent Rigby.

“The RCMP has confirmed that the suspect did not have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate,” the memo reads, using the old term for a gun licence.

The memo goes on to detail how Wortman had a Colt Law Enforcement Carbine sourced from a gun shop in California and smuggled into Canada as well as two pistols smuggled in from Maine. He also had a Ruger Mini-14 sourced to a Canadian store, but the memo doesn’t say how Wortman obtained it since he would not have been allowed to legally buy it in Canada."


Let's take a step back and imagine... I mean just suppose that Trudeau and Bill Blair told the truth....

• there would be about $100B not spent and 2019 would be a balanced budget.
• Openness and accountability and respect would be shown ... but aren't
• vets would have got millions into their budget and the convicted terrorist would still be in court.
• an indigenous woman would have kept her job as Attorney General, Phillcott and Caesar-Chavannes and other women treated fairly
• airport screening would have started 2 months earlier and there might be as many as thousands still alive that died from COVID
• At least a few of the 2,000,000,000 trees would have been planted.
• There wouldn't be .22 and 410 firearms on the banned list.

etc. etc.


just pointing out another Liberal virtue signalling while ignoring real issues that require fixing. I really hope as more and more information comes to light about the Liberal's policies and decisions and agendas that there will be a light at the end of the dark tunnel we are in. People need to take responsibility for their decisions and actions and who they vote for ...


“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell

When a people are ignorant of history, disregard the implications of their votes and choices that is where we get parties like the National Socialists of 1930's Germany elected and others.... heck they are even ignoring what the Liberal's are openly saying and making things up that fit their ideology not the ideology of the politician.



https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ts-80-suspects
Last year they arrested 80 and seized 23 firearms, drugs etc. ... and this year is worse than last for firearm violence (with illegal firearms).... most were likely free by this year.... I believe it was Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders that referred to the revolving door in regards to gangs.

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Gentlemen,

I think your missing the whole point of my post,the gun issue has been "weaponized" by BOTH MAJOR political parties in this country for better or for worse.

We are merely collateral damage with it hitting you harder or softer depending on where you started out in the gun owning.

Personally I have all the same guns as I did have 40 years ago and other than some bothersome paperwork I believe myself and the majority of hunters are not to badly affected.

But my post is to highlight to you IMHO that ERIN O'TOOLE is going to serve up platitudes to you on restoring certain gun classes and ownership.I do not think he will touch this issue with a ten foot pole.

The reason being not a winner of votes in any form.What exactly will he say when he first CBC reporter or otherwise ask's him the question "Mr O Toole are you prepared to allow citizens to possess semi automatic assault rifles".

The question will box him right into a position and the urban vote,female vote and even the vote of most hunters and farmers goes out the window.IMO

Prime minister O Toole will be great for Canada.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Gentlemen,

I think your missing the whole point of my post,the gun issue has been "weaponized" by BOTH MAJOR political parties in this country for better or for worse.

We are merely collateral damage with it hitting you harder or softer depending on where you started out in the gun owning.

Personally I have all the same guns as I did have 40 years ago and other than some bothersome paperwork I believe myself and the majority of hunters are not to badly affected.

But my post is to highlight to you IMHO that ERIN O'TOOLE is going to serve up platitudes to you on restoring certain gun classes and ownership.I do not think he will touch this issue with a ten foot pole.

The reason being not a winner of votes in any form.What exactly will he say when he first CBC reporter or otherwise ask's him the question "Mr O Toole are you prepared to allow citizens to possess semi automatic assault rifles".

The question will box him right into a position and the urban vote,female vote and even the vote of most hunters and farmers goes out the window.IMO

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What Erin O'toole might do is tell the people and the cameras the truth.
He would probly answer with, assault weapons have always been prohibited, an assault rifle has selective fire, making it fully-automatic, the liberals banned non-restricted and restricted semi-auto firearms that are used by and for hunters and shooters. Maybe try and wake up the pea brained sheep to reality..lol.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

What Erin O'toole might do is tell the people and the cameras the truth.
He would probly answer with, assault weapons have always been prohibited, an assault rifle has selective fire, making it fully-automatic, the liberals banned non-restricted and restricted semi-auto firearms that are used by and for hunters and shooters. Maybe try and wake up the pea brained sheep to reality..lol.

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Personally I do not think Erin would go near this topic as there are way to many bigger fish to fry,in fact he would probably not want to be asked that type of question.But as you know Politics is a blood sport,so that question will be asked.

It does not help even if he explains the history and classification,it will not resonate with the majority of liberal voters or ndp voters,they are not interested and will vote the same way as last time.

Now is there enough voters who could be swayed into supporting the reinstatement of the old classifications, I would say no.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Maybe try and wake up the pea brained sheep to reality..lol.

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He's already made his position clear:

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CPC leadership candidate says he will “stop the Liberal soft on crime approach for partner violence and criminal use of weapons.”
Conservative Party leadership candidate Erin O’Toole is pledging to repeal the Trudeau Liberal gun ban:

“As PM, I’ll scrap the politically-motivated ban announced by Trudeau today and will focus on working with border and law enforcement on stopping illegal gun smugglers.

I will also stop the Liberal soft on crime approach for partner violence and criminal use of weapons.”

As PM, I’ll scrap the politically-motivated ban announced by Trudeau today and will focus on working with border and law enforcement on stopping illegal gun smugglers.

I will also stop the Liberal soft on crime approach for partner violence and criminal use of weapons.

— Erin O'Toole (@ErinOTooleMP) May 1, 2020

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Personally I do not think Erin would go near this topic

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You'd be wrong....here’s Erin not going near this topic: HaHa...

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“There’s a big difference between me and Justin Trudeau.

I believe that you make communities safer by supporting law enforcement and cracking down on criminals. Justin Trudeau does not support either of these policies and chooses time after time to mislead and divide Canadians.

In response to a convicted criminal committing a horrific attack with illegal weapons, Trudeau ignores illegal gun smugglers and is soft on criminals who commit domestic violence – that can tragically be a precursor to murder. Instead, the Trudeau Liberals hope to confuse Canadians with misleading claims about law-abiding firearms owners and their property.

To politicize a tragedy like this is beneath the dignity of the office of Prime Minister. It is an insult to the victims and a disgusting attack on the rights and freedoms of all Canadians.

This would be true even if the Prime Minister’s plan would actually save lives. The fact that it won’t save a single life makes it even worse.

Let’s be clear – this isn’t about preventing crime. It’s about dividing Canadians. They want to divide rural versus urban Canadians. They want to divide Canadians who hunt or enjoy sports shooting versus those who don’t. In the heels of a tragedy the Liberals use misleading and loaded terms like “assault-styled” to try and scare people and convince them to turn on their neighbours or co-workers who the Liberals claim are a risk to public safety.

I won’t let the Trudeau Liberal mislead and divide Canadians on the topic of firearms ownership anymore. I am going to call out their lies and their divisive tactics.

And when it comes to public safety – I have a better plan.

Part one is to stop criminals from getting illegal guns by finally going after the criminal networks that smuggle weapons into our country from the United States. We have a strict system of screening, training and licensing that does a good job of stopping criminals from legally buying guns. Canadians need to know that the problem rests with the border. It is still too easy for gangs to smuggle and deal in illegal guns. I have a plan to stop this.

The second part of a plan to tackle gun violence is to finally take real action against domestic violence. You may wonder why this is part of this plan. It’s for a very simple reason. We have seen time and again that the criminals who commit attacks of violence almost always start off by abusing their spouse or partner. For far too long we have let these terrible people who commit domestic violence off with a slap on the wrist. This not only does a massive disservice to their innocent victims who are left to suffer – it also puts the broader community at risk. It’s time for tough mandatory minimum sentences for those who assault their spouse or partner. It’s also time to make it much easier for victims to secure protective orders. I have worked on these issues for over a decade and will make it happen as Prime Minister.�
It’s time to get serious about violent crime. It’s time to stop the Liberal approach of dividing Canadians.

The current Prime Minister isn’t serious. I will be”

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MikePal,
Erin O'toole has more than the pea sized brain the liberal party possess. He is a man with a common sense plan, a smart, honest, working leader who speaks the truth