Moose Points are now posted

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Originally Posted by Sam Menard

I think it’s going to take 2 years for most hunters to learn the new system and for the point requirements to stabilize. By year 3, hunters should have a good idea how many points will be required in their favourite unit.

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I agree 100%. It's gonna take a while to find the angle that will maximize a groups chances of hunting. I realize the applications are as individuals, but most guys hunt with an established group. It's going to take a few years to get the high point applicants out of the system before you get a feel for what is a realistic point number for an area.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Many hunters may need to wrap their heads around giving up organized camps in favor of portable,rapid-deployment camps to head for low point requirement tag allocation areas,...

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And that is a tough pill to swallow for established camps (actual buildings and such) that have been around for years. Pretty much defeats the purpose of having one.

So let's try and figure out the mat on this and I have no starting point but after 1- 5 years all those with the most points from years ago should got used up, at what point do you see it leveling out that say, maybe a person gets a tag every 5 years? Anyone have an idea how we can do the math on this?

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

So let's try and figure out the mat on this and I have no starting point but after 1- 5 years all those with the most points from years ago should got used up, at what point do you see it leveling out that say, maybe a person gets a tag every 5 years? Anyone have an idea how we can do the math on this?

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The best way to think about this new system is like a waiting list. Where would your points put you on the list?

WMU 60 again by example, had 1550 apply for 59 tags on the bull side last year. If you have let’s say 6 points, where would that put on the waiting list? If it puts you around #900, then the wait is around 15 years provided the WMU maintains the same volume of interest and similar quotas

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

So let's try and figure out the mat on this and I have no starting point but after 1- 5 years all those with the most points from years ago should got used up, at what point do you see it leveling out that say, maybe a person gets a tag every 5 years? Anyone have an idea how we can do the math on this?

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I am not sure about this, but I think AB has a system where you have to be drawn for certain tags in certain areas. I keep reading about residents being drawn for muledeer tags. If someone here is familiar with how that system works, maybe they could let us know if we should expect something similar.

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Originally Posted by outdoorlife

The best way to think about this new system is like a waiting list. Where would your points put you on the list?

WMU 60 again by example, had 1550 apply for 59 tags on the bull side last year. If you have let’s say 6 points, where would that put on the waiting list? If it puts you around #900, then the wait is around 15 years provided the WMU maintains the same volume of interest and similar quotas

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Interesting I wonder if the new will be better than the old, for example for me I have basically always applied for tag in WMU 60 some 23 times, with success twice. So basically one adult tag every 13 years.

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Originally Posted by Hawkman

... If the new points system helps bring back the moose population, and if it offers hunters a more fair opportunity for getting drawn for an adult moose tag in the meantime, then I for one will find the money no matter how much they ask for. I might grumble a bit but will still pay.

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I really hope you are right about bringing back the moose populations, but sadly I highly doubt this new system will make any difference.

First, like the old system, it is only applicable to regulated hunters as far as is known, and second, there is no mention that the number of tags or seasons will be reduced - is there? It is only a new way to allocate tags as far as I can see.

In order to bring back the populations the seasons need to be closed for a few years and predator control measures need to be put in place.

Never going to happen my friends.

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Originally Posted by outdoorlife

last year all 4 of you had ~5% chance to draw a tag in WMU 60.

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5% On what planet?

This year will be a crapshoot for sure. Lots of high numbers just here floating around (3 for me never drawn). Hopefully next year we will have some draws stats of some use to look at.

Out of 10 crew members,we have three with 18 points,four with 10 pts,one with 7 points (me) and one with 1 point and one with zero points (fng). We're in wmu 50 where tag allocation is slim to none. It'll be interesting to see how this works out,if at all.

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Originally Posted by North of Seven

5% On what planet?

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Originally Posted by Ahuntr300

... In order to bring back the populations the seasons need to be closed for a few years and predator control measures need to be put in place. ....

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I have actually suggested this very same thing many many times over the past dozen years! Problem is that not everybody agrees on that point and I am not able to disagree with those people either.

Life is definitely short and we all want to have tags and go shoot big moose every hunting season! At my age (61) if hunting stops completely for three years - as I myself advocate for - then I am losing precious time because I might be dead or in a wheelchair in four years when hunting resumes again. So, based on my own logic I can see people disagreeing with a 3 year ban on moose hunting.

Still a complicated puzzle.