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May 4th, 2021, 09:26 AM
GW11

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Canada and most of Europe have similar climates to the UK. If your theory had any merit we'd see the same sort of declines in cases and hospitalizations in Europe and Canada. We aren't.

Canada has a bunch of different climates based on what part of the country we're taking about. The climate in Calgary varies vastly from Toronto. The climate in Halifax varies greatly from that in Saskatoon, you get the picture. Think less about weather conditions and more about humidity or lack thereof.

We're in the middle of the country and our "continental climate" is what makes respiratory virus transmission take such wild swings here. It's the same if you look at Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, etc. Long, cool dry periods where transmission is high and then long, hot and humid (humidity is key), periods where transmission is low. Look at our summer last year. We had less than 100 cases a day, and it wasn't because people were wearing masks or just got really good at public health measures in the summertime. It's because a humid summer made transmission far more difficult.

The humidity levels on the coastal regions will always keep transmission relatively lower than places with continental type climates.

This is evident if you cross reference humidity trends in a region that is having a "surge" in cases. I looked yesterday, Alberta is "the worst" in Canada right now by the numbers. Their driest point in the season (by RH) is the end of April. Our driest point in the season by RH is March. That's why we peaked in April, same as we did last year.

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May 4th, 2021, 09:29 AM
WillieBeno

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Whether you measure hospitalizations or new cases the fact remains that those jurisdictions who vaccinated faster than Canada are getting the pandemic under control.

This week Alberta became the jurisdiction with the highest growth rate of infection in North America.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ases-1.5412090

COVID deniers claim that if we test less there will be fewer cases which is complete nonsense.

PCR test is a fraud. Data can be manipulated by running the tests at higher threshold cycles, the inventor of it said it shouldn't be used for covid 1984 testing. The weather in Alberta has been cold lately, could account for prolonged virus season.
May 4th, 2021, 09:40 AM
Badenoch

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Originally Posted by GW11

Canada has a bunch of different climates based on what part of the country we're taking about. The climate in Calgary varies vastly from Toronto. The climate in Halifax varies greatly from that in Saskatoon, you get the picture. Think less about weather conditions and more about humidity or lack thereof.

We're in the middle of the country and our "continental climate" is what makes respiratory virus transmission take such wild swings here. It's the same if you look at Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, etc. Long, cool dry periods where transmission is high and then long, hot and humid (humidity is key), periods where transmission is low. Look at our summer last year. We had less than 100 cases a day, and it wasn't because people were wearing masks or just got really good at public health measures in the summertime. It's because a humid summer made transmission far more difficult.

The humidity levels on the coastal regions will always keep transmission relatively lower than places with continental type climates.

This is evident if you cross reference humidity trends in a region that is having a "surge" in cases. I looked yesterday, Alberta is "the worst" in Canada right now by the numbers. Their driest point in the season (by RH) is the end of April. Our driest point in the season by RH is March. That's why we peaked in April, same as we did last year.

And yet right across the border in Montana the new case increases are one-third that of Alberta.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ates-1.5051033
May 4th, 2021, 09:46 AM
WillieBeno

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

And yet right across the border in Montana the new case increases are one-third that of Alberta.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ates-1.5051033

Probably attributed to the Jet Stream.
May 4th, 2021, 09:57 AM
GW11

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

And yet right across the border in Montana the new case increases are one-third that of Alberta.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ates-1.5051033

Montana has 1/4 the population of Alberta, its largest city has 100000 people. Alberta has 2 cities with over 1 million. This is a 2 part problem. Population density being the big one. Conditions allowing easy transmission is the second.

Billings Montana (most populated city) doesn't even have the same RH trend based on its relative position to the Rockies. Billings is driest at the end of the summer. Calgary is at the end of April.

Here are the graphs.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a32e477fff.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c690a4c8d9.jpg

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May 4th, 2021, 10:02 AM
GW11

Here's a study from Australia that found a 7 to 8 percent increase in transmission for every 1 point reduction in RH:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0818094028.htm

Yet, it's still the fault of the people for not following restrictions, so more restrictions will be imposed.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/w...ases-1.5412613

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May 4th, 2021, 10:29 AM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by Jakezilla

Any idea if the testing rate or CT cycles have stayed the same in the UK and Israel? That does have a direct effect on the numbers and the media/governments have proven themselves untrustworthy with facts and statistics throughout COVID. Restrictions in Texas and Florida have been lifted for some times as well. How do their vaccination per capita vs cases rate compare with the UK and Israel. The media often ignores any evidence contrary to the narrative. If we want the truth we can't cherry pick data and I am just looking for the truth.

Israel halted it's testing by at least half.

Chile is using the Chinese made vaccine they have high vaccination rate and just went through there biggest outbreak.

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May 4th, 2021, 11:09 AM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Testing isn't always a good measure. Hospitalization rates are a better indicator. Here are COVID hospitalizations in the UK.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ons-in-the-uk/

This doesn't mean it's not still spreading the vaccine is to reduce hospitalizations and deaths we know it's working . So why would they test anyone not showing symptoms. If most of the cases show little symptoms and you have a vaccine that takes those symptoms away how would you even know you are sick. Might feel a little off but it's covid without even knowing it.

I think suppressing the symptoms could lead to a more dangerous situation.

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May 4th, 2021, 11:10 AM
fishfood

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

I will only take the Pfizer so when they call me if it isn't for Pfizer I will turn it down, I also want 100% assurance that the second dose will be the same brand.

And on time [emoji12]

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May 4th, 2021, 11:19 AM
GW11

Here is the monthly RH chart and the infection curve for Sydney, Australia. See any relationship?

Note how their worst time is during their typical cold and flu season, our summer.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...560544b8bf.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...96eb53f33a.jpg

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