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Welsh, I just want to be sure you know what happens when I slam 80,000 pounds ( 36,363.64 Kg) of freight and tractor trailer into a 3,000 pound(1,363.64Kg) car and grind it into a cement barrier?Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
And no I can't really do that in Canada if someone waves a gun, without going to jail and waiting for my trial. Just like the farmers out west. I also can not defend myself in my cab if someone breaks in without going to trial as well.
But it's not legal to slice his stomach with a knife in canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Perhaps it has escaped your notice that nobody was waving a gun at the farmer out west.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
And no, you will not automatically be charged and go to trial if you defend yourself in Canada. You're just making stuff up.
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Nor is it in many states. But that's not a question of castle doctrine, regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
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Have you never heard of the charges of "Vehicle homicide", reckless Driving, Undue Care and Attention, and the list goes one. Even if someone in the car put bullet holes in my truck, I still would get charged and have to defend myself in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
I hate to tell you, but in the case of "feared for my safety" it is. Only places it could be a problem is socialist States run by Democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Um, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Fact: state laws on self-defence fall into two categories. Either they reflect the English common law, or they reflect the True Man doctrine, more recently known as "stand your ground." Where the law reflects the English common law approach to self-defence, "I feared for my safety" does not excuse disproportionate violence in response to an attack in a public place.
If you wish to dispute this based on your personal experience, I suggest you first knife someone in a diner in each of the states.
No matter what you choose to believe, it is not the case that you will automatically be charged and taken to trial if you defend yourself in Canada. That's just not true, and repeating it won't make it true. So you can quit dreaming up scenarios and then catastrophizing the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Again, the original topic of this thread is whether a property owner has the right to defend his property, and what the limits of that right are. Your self-defence rabbit holes have nothing to do with that.
How would it be disprotionate?Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
That question is in fact at the center of this whole problem. Liberials, Democrats, what ever they call themselves think that ANY response to an Attacker or Robber is disprotionate.
Don't be silly...it will have to escalate to the point of the police fearing his life. At that point...it is ok...not like for the homeowner. You see a police officer has the authority to use up and including deadly force. Yes it is subject to a review, be gets paid during review. I want the same conditions for me, as a police officer has....Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymoose
Well the ball is beginning to roll...good to see that the rural community is talking with the politicians and putting the RCMP's feet to the fire for answers. So far their responses (excuses) are pathetic and woefully short of the quality of policing that the rural residents are entitled to.
Excellent article..a good beginning to identify what the problems are.
a little more than a 'few CD's' :)
to add insult..charge you to get your stuff back :)Quote:
Brad Toone, who farms in the MD of Willow Creek, said $70,000 worth of equipment was stolen from his property in the last year and a half, including multiple vehicles and batteries.
He voiced frustration, saying he and others aren't reporting thefts anymore because with the frequency of crimes, it wasn't worth the time to document the losses, vandalism on his farm and wait for police.
claim it on your insurance....oops...they cancelled that :)Quote:
“We had a vehicle stolen, it was involved in a police chase, roll over,” Toone said. “They kept it for evidence and when they finally said we could pick it up, we got charged for towing. Greyland was told by letter he would have to pay more than $500 to the impound lot to get it back.
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Delilah Miller, deputy reeve for Foothills County, said some residents have been victimized multiple times and are now unable to get insurance.
“We need to rally our insurance companies and say, 'help these people out, it's not their fault they've been robbed,''' she said.
http://www.highrivertimes.com/2018/0...t-open-houseMP