If voters change their minds about gun control because of this tragedy, why is it despicable? Please elaborate.
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If voters change their minds about gun control because of this tragedy, why is it despicable? Please elaborate.
Not anti-police, nor RCMP.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
In fact I worked for them when I came to the Nations Capital. In various capacities, with different elements.
It is however the bureaucrats, and the fact that as the Federal Police Force, they are more subject to the whim, and pressure from the Federal Govt. ( Like the arbitrary reclassification of firearms without actual approval), which makes them subject to more ridicule, and scrutiny.
This has nothing to do with front line policing, or regular members. What you're picking up on is the fact that they are definitely playing the cards close on this one, in what appears to be damage control.
Thanks for the explanation.
Within our society there are anti-authoritarian loons who regard the police as oppressors of the state who fly black helicopters, confiscate guns, deny people their "rights" and who will if ordered to do so by the New World Order round them up and ship them to concentration camps. These people sit in their basements, play too many video games and stroke their ARs dreaming of the glorious day when "push comes to shove" and "the balloon goes up."Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
They are weirdos and Conservatives don't like them any more than you do.
Fisher,Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
I am always supportive of everyone’s right to express their views and opinions, and agreeable that debates are healthy and necessary. HOWEVER, I’m going to call you out on this TROLL comment. I think by now you’re very aware of the core beliefs of many of the active members and were only seeking a reaction when you wrote this.
Did your wife notice the grin on your face today or was she still in bed ?
As someone with law enforcement members in the family , I wanted to know why the mindset of supposedly pro police,conservatives has changed ? Why? It was a reasonable question. BBD responded appropriately, carry on.
My dad was a cop. I tend to be pro police. In many cases our police are handcuffed and unable to use their authority with wisdom and reasonable force. Maybe police bureaucracy prevented the issuing of an amber alert immediately by the officers on the ground.
However,in a democracy police should be held to account. What can be done better. What should have been done. Why were people not properly warned. Were lives lost because of poor reactions and procedures. All reasonable questions.
The police dealing with the most difficult criminals often are not properly supported. In this case it appears some criticism is justified. I expect some fine police officers have some questions too.
Also, free speech even if if it is wrong should be allowed. Just refute it.
On the RCMP side, did the murdered officer show undue restraint in the preparation to defend herself and use force to kill because of the fear of consequences. I don’t know but I am sure it happens today and it even happens to citizens who use reasonable force. If an officer had shot him before he killed anyone, how would that work out for the officer? Would we support him or her? And even would we support a citizen who used reasonable force to stop the murderer?
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The shooter did not have a PAL so that means he was illegally in possession of these gun(s) and we do not know right now but they could also be illegal guns. So tell how how could stricter gun controls for legal gun owners could have stopped this mass murder? I know what could have helped - an amber alert.....that could have helped but someone in NS thought Twitter was a better media to use to warn people of this shooter.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
What is despicable is that Trudeau and Blair are going to use this to their advantage and only tell one side of the story.
Thanks Ontariofarmer. Another reasonable answer, to help me understand the conservative, pro to anti cop, conversion, that seems to be going on.
You don't actually believe what you wrote do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
The Liberals can turn a paper cut into a gun issue.
They campaigned on banning more guns and Turdhole signed Canada up for the UN small arms treaty. The Libs had a gathering in January to discuss their gun banning bill.
But you are a shill for the liberals anyway.