Who hasn't had a shot at all?

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Originally Posted by Species8472

And the sequence between humans and chimps only varies 1%. See how that works. Or if you like a chihuahua and a great dane are the same species with virtually no difference in their sequences.

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So we are in agreement. Since the first covid was a non event for the general population then there is absolutely nothing to worry about the variants.
The fear mongering continues and is propagated by corrupt politicians.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

When you look at the health Canada pages it's in bold letters every time they say it's safe and effective lol. The push it so much they must make it be seen that they are SAFE AND EFFECTIVE [emoji2]

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It's so safe and effective, both the producers and the governments have zero liability for any and all negative effects, because its an experimental drug that is use at own risk..lol

If it's so safe and effective why are they talking a third shot?..lol. it couldn't be more obvious, they really don't have a clue what their telling the people.

Trudeau is not saying its effective...lmao

https://youtu.be/53pNegyiFnY

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Originally Posted by impact

So we are in agreement. Since the first covid was a non event for the general population then there is absolutely nothing to worry about the variants.
The fear mongering continues and is propagated by corrupt politicians.

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No in relation to your original post I can see that went right over your head. If a 1 percent change can turn a human into a tree climbing different species 1/3 the original size than I am certain a 0.3 percent change can totally change a single trait like ability to re-infect.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

Nothing wrong with that Greg. My family was similar - we never traveled - not even domestically. I didn't get the travel bug until my early 30s and all my realtives on both sides think I am insane.


I enjoy peace and quiet on a beautiful lake as well. I also have a hard time understanding the appeal of all inclusive. Did it once and not for me. Different strokes for different fokes.

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Maybe I just haven't picked the right activity in the right destination yet. I'm sure I'd endure the inconvenience of travel to take my Dad on an African plains game hunt!

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Originally Posted by GW11

Maybe I just haven't picked the right activity in the right destination yet. I'm sure I'd endure the inconvenience of travel to take my Dad on an African plains game hunt!

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What surprises me how few home grown Canadians have not seen much of Canada....their holidays always seem to involve getting on planes and head out of country.

I've been across this country 4 times. I hitched hiked out to Vancover once, took a Greyhound bus back. Took a train up to Churchill Man, worked up there for a few years and saw a great deal of the north. The military was kind enough to drag me and my family coast to coast on various adventures. We've never felt the need once to leave the country for a holiday.

This country has beautiful, it's vast and glorious. Places to see that are grander than anywhere else on the planet.

Vacation in Canada this year. Travel to places you've never been. Support the Canadian tourist industry, spend your money where it will help a fellow Canadian recover from the losses incurred during the pandemic.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

No in relation to your original post I can see that went right over your head. If a 1 percent change can turn a human into a tree climbing different species 1/3 the original size than I am certain a 0.3 percent change can totally change a single trait like ability to re-infect.

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For what it's worth I think the 0.3% change is in the spike protein, which is what the vaccines target. So in terms of vaccine effectiveness, variants are indeed scary news. In terms of how this impacts people... well let's say I'd rather my immune system wasn't providing a "strong immune response" to the most rapidly changing part of this virus. On the other hand, if I catch covid and survive (well over 99% likely), the next strain will be so similar to the last, I shouldn't have to worry about getting very sick.

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Originally Posted by GW11

On the other hand, if I catch covid and survive (well over 99% likely), the next strain will be so similar to the last, I shouldn't have to worry about getting very sick.

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Exactly !!!

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Originally Posted by MikePal

What surprises me how few home grown Canadians have not seen much of Canada....their holidays always seem to involve getting on planes and head out of country.

I've been across this country 4 times. Once hitched hiked out to Vancover once, took a Greyhound bus back. Took a train up to Churchill Man, worked up there for a few years and saw a great deal of the north. The military was kind enough to drag me and my family coast to coast on various adventures. We've never felt the need once to leave the country for a holiday.

This country has beautiful, it's vast and glorious. Places to see that are grander than anywhere else on the planet.

Vacation in Canada this year. Travel to places you've never been. Support the Canadian tourist industry, spend your money where it will help a fellow Canadian recover from the losses incurred during the pandemic.

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Amen Mike!

Our most enjoyable family vacation to date was a road trip to the east coast in the summer of 2019. We have years and years of potential vacation ahead of us right here in Canada.

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Originally Posted by GW11

Our most enjoyable family vacation to date was a road trip to the east coast in the summer of 2019. We have years and years of potential vacation ahead of us right here in Canada.

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May have to scratch Quebec off the list, Passport requirements is a show stopper and the roads signs aren't in English anyway..:)

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Originally Posted by GW11

Anecdotal evidence but in my immediate and extended family we've seen way more strange health issues in the past few months than ever before.

Brain aneurysm in a 75 year old active woman, sudden death in an otherwise healthy 42 year old male (immediate family is not disclosing the autopsy results), and just heard this morning that my aunt (60) was hospitalized with blood clots in her brain. There other issues as well but not things I'd like to publicly post. The common denominator is all of these complications happened within a week or two of the second shot.

I know a few people who have had covid. Most had to be tested to know they even had it.

Benefits outweigh the risks indeed.



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I am not going to get into the details but there has been some concerning medical issues that I am aware of in my immediate circle of family and friends. I know a few handfuls of people that were diagnosed with covid and most would not have known without being tested and the few that had symptoms were very mild. I am typically not the conspiracy type but when all the conspiracy start coming out as true its hard not to question this whole thing.