explain to me why ohep cost 300 bucks?

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Originally Posted by mark270wsm

i have been told that if i show up with a hunter safety certificate from another province or state I can not be turned down for challenging the hunters exam in ontario

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All those reams of posts, and that's your update?

No one disputed that in the first place. It is a well known part of the regs.

You however have not indicated that you indeed were able to obtain a hunter safety certificate from out of province, which seemed to be the crux of your argument.....and thus far, you have not obtained one I take it?

Seems to be your initial rant, and complaint were simply academic since you began this thread in Aug, and we're now 6 months out from that, yet no Ontario license yet?

No the crux of my argument was the cost and it being available online in a lot of places but we are held hostage here in ontario

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Being ex-army as well, I was already familiar with firearms, and things like trigger discipline.

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Funny you mention ex military making you familiar. I did mine a bit ago.. In the same class there was a current military member.. (Nearing end) was going to get restricted for a job path.. Anyways.. Thus guy had no idea about guns.. He did not know how to release an action on a Mossberg 500... Or how to put a lever in 1/2 .. He did however understand the semis.. And safety..
I had always assumed the military got basic training in all weapons.. But I guess I'm wrong.. Or maybe trainkng is not what it used to be?

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Originally Posted by topher

I had always assumed the military got basic training in all weapons.. But I guess I'm wrong.. Or maybe trainkng is not what it used to be?

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Why would they train the military on hunting guns ? .....they only train on them on their 'weapons'...two different beasts.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Why would they train the military on hunting guns ? .....they only train on them on their 'weapons'...two different beasts.

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Understand they are two different beasts.. But you woukd figure a pump action some one would know...

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Originally Posted by topher

Funny you mention ex military making you familiar. I did mine a bit ago.. In the same class there was a current military member.. (Nearing end) was going to get restricted for a job path.. Anyways.. Thus guy had no idea about guns.. He did not know how to release an action on a Mossberg 500... Or how to put a lever in 1/2 .. He did however understand the semis.. And safety..
I had always assumed the military got basic training in all weapons.. But I guess I'm wrong.. Or maybe trainkng is not what it used to be?

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It depends on what part of the military.

Combat arms, lots of exposure to weapons pistol, service rifle C7, LMG C9, med MG C6 etc. ( obviously not sporting arms). Other trades, yearly draw of service rifle out of the Q and go qualify.

i grew up around guns, and knew about their operation long before I ever wore green jammies. Where the military experience came in was being familiar with guns, safety, etc.

There are a lot of folks that go for their PAL and their HSC who have never held a gun in their lives.....

Wow this is a bit of a dog fight....anyway regardless of where this has gone I think Mark's idea of making it more affordable is a good one.

I don't take issue with the cost so much for myself as for young people and I have no issue with instructors making money giving the course as I don't believe an online course can provide what an actual person can nor does a computer recognize if someone needs extra help or is unsafe handling a weapon. I would like to see a special rate / discount / incentive for apprentice hunters or other young people, even special rates for organizations that work with young people (ex. big brothers) this would not benefit me but may benefit the sport - possibly the MNR could waive or subsidize materials for kids. I know there are lots of smart people on here who could provide good ideas to lower the cost for kids. One business that is helping new hunters get started is Ellwood Epps on Hwy 11 N in Orillia who give recent graduates a free hunting knife in recognition of their accomplishment (kudos Epps). I know that there are other businesses and organizations helping youth getting started and getting kids out hunting and you have my thanks.

I would like to thank all those men/women like Genec that make the time and give of themselves to be instructors and provide this great service, I'm sure my wife and son would also thank you (they still talk about their instructor Dino out of Barrie - being over 30 years ago now I no longer remember my instructors' name only that his insight and encouragement helped a lot).

Just one last thing - encourage others to enjoy our great outdoors, help get a friend out hunting, mentor or sponsor a youth...just my 2c...FB

You are complaining for 300$ for one in your life time exam!!! Well, you better not hunting at all and buy your meat at the grocery store, a lot cheaper....

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Originally Posted by seabast

You are complaining for 300$ for one in your life time exam!!! Well, you better not hunting at all and buy your meat at the grocery store, a lot cheaper....

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Give me 300 bucks then why pay for something when it should be around 50 and that is top dollar

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Originally Posted by mark270wsm

Give me 300 bucks then why pay for something when it should be around 50 and that is top dollar

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I just want to chime in on this. My son just took the course for his minors POL. $50 would have worked out to less than $4.00/hr for the examiner to teach and examine. That does not include the cost of the book, any visual aids, rental of the hall etc. Your $50.00 would work out to a monetary loss for the examiner. Give your head a shake buddy. I have no problem with the costs involved. It was money well spent IMO