Is this normal?

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

See my previous response....

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Kinda like getting caught with your fingers in the cookie jar.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Kinda like getting caught with your fingers in the cookie jar.

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Only in your little mind !!!

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

In the back of his truck, with the deer....when you read the actual legislation, it says the tag has to be attached to the “carcass”, as indicated on the tag. Obviously the CO interpreted that to be the whole animal, not a detached head that may or may not belong to the skinned carcass. Stands to reason, from his perspective, the head and tag says buck, when the skinned carcass could have been a doe.....from an enforcement perspective, it makes sense.
This was a few years ago when your deer had to be tagged when transporting.

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It used to say 'attached' it has been changed to 'with' as indicated on your tag.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Only in your little mind !!!

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Now don,t get abusive because you have been playing fast and loose with your so often quoted regulations.You have also indicated on several posts certain things I was supposed to have said and I called you out on them and you still have not replied.Post 96 and Post 97.You got any more porkies to tell,I kind of like your far fetched post #51 LOL

"Haha, they must have gotten them in the last three weeks !! The CO that we spoke to, just dated and initialled our tags....why? Who knows!! I suppose if he checked us again and we had tags that weren’t initialed, we would have some splainin’ to do.."

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

It used to say 'attached' it has been changed to 'with' as indicated on your tag.

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Ok, one last time....here is the actual regulation. Read it over slowly......I don’t care what you think the tag says.... this is the actual “law”....Especially Sub (4)...and Sub (5)....

[COLOR=#505050]19. (1) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species and who kills a member of the species shall, immediately after the kill, at the site of the kill and before moving the carcass, invalidate the tag by following the instructions that accompany the tag. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](2) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species shall not invalidate the tag with respect to an animal that he or she kills unless the animal is of the same species, type, age and sex as is specified,
[COLOR=#505050](a) on the tag or on the validation certificate that accompanies the tag; or
[COLOR=#505050](b) in the case of a licensed hunter hunting deer in a controlled deer hunt management unit, in the information on the licence summary that validates a previously issued deer tag, as described in clause 38 (1) (b). O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](3) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species shall not invalidate the tag with respect to an animal that is killed by another person. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](4) Following the kill of a species referred to in subsection (1), the licensed hunter shall either keep the invalidated tag on his or her person or attach it to the animal in the manner specified in the instructions that accompany the tag. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](5) Despite subsection (4), a licensed hunter who kills an animal shall not keep the invalidated tag on his or her person but shall attach it to the animal in the manner specified in the instructions that accompany the tag before he or she,
[COLOR=#505050](a) ceases to be immediately accompanying the carcass; or
[COLOR=#505050](b) ceases to be immediately available to produce the tag for inspection to confirm the lawful killing of the animal. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](6) No person shall possess an animal that ought to have had a tag attached to it in accordance with subsection (5). O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](7) The licensed hunter shall ensure that an invalidated tag is kept on his or her person or attached to the carcass in accordance with subsections (4) and (5) until such time as the animal has been transported from the site of the kill to the site of processing and is being prepared for long-term storage. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Once you are at the butchers, tagging and possession of your tag no longer apply.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Ok, one last time....here is the actual regulation. Read it over slowly......I don’t care what you think the tag says.... this is the actual “law”....Especially Sub (4)...and Sub (5)....

[COLOR=#505050]19. (1) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species and who kills a member of the species shall, immediately after the kill, at the site of the kill and before moving the carcass, invalidate the tag by following the instructions that accompany the tag. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](2) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species shall not invalidate the tag with respect to an animal that he or she kills unless the animal is of the same species, type, age and sex as is specified,
[COLOR=#505050](a) on the tag or on the validation certificate that accompanies the tag; or
[COLOR=#505050](b) in the case of a licensed hunter hunting deer in a controlled deer hunt management unit, in the information on the licence summary that validates a previously issued deer tag, as described in clause 38 (1) (b). O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](3) A licensed hunter who holds a tag to hunt a wildlife species shall not invalidate the tag with respect to an animal that is killed by another person. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](4) Following the kill of a species referred to in subsection (1), the licensed hunter shall either keep the invalidated tag on his or her person or attach it to the animal in the manner specified in the instructions that accompany the tag. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](5) Despite subsection (4), a licensed hunter who kills an animal shall not keep the invalidated tag on his or her person but shall attach it to the animal in the manner specified in the instructions that accompany the tag before he or she,
[COLOR=#505050](a) ceases to be immediately accompanying the carcass; or
[COLOR=#505050](b) ceases to be immediately available to produce the tag for inspection to confirm the lawful killing of the animal. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](6) No person shall possess an animal that ought to have had a tag attached to it in accordance with subsection (5). O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.
[COLOR=#505050](7) The licensed hunter shall ensure that an invalidated tag is kept on his or her person or attached to the carcass in accordance with subsections (4) and (5) until such time as the animal has been transported from the site of the kill to the site of processing and is being prepared for long-term storage. O. Reg. 544/17, s. 3.

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Your first line does not comply with the law in the last line.Next.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Your first line does not comply with the law in the last line.Next.

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You really must work on your comprehension skills !

All this confusion could’ve been easily solved if the MNR learned from some of the USA state.
Most of the place that I hunt down in the USA you have a tags that part you have to keep it with the meet
and part of it you have to keep it with the antler and Cape

So, ignore the new revisions in the summary and on the tag, because they won't have any practical application like instruction, traceability or requirement.

Instead, we're to believe that the regulations you posted, illustrates that we're now not allowed to skin a deer before we take it to a butcher? Seriously.
Nothing in the regs you reference prohibits the separation of the carcass.
The only reference is on the tag. It now instructs you to keep the head with the carcass. There is no other reason to have that written on the tag other than to instruct those who have separated the carcass.

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

So, ignore the new revisions in the summary and on the tag, because they won't have any practical application like instruction, traceability or requirement.

Instead, we're to believe that the regulations you posted, illustrates that we're now not allowed to skin a deer before we take it to a butcher? Seriously.
Nothing in the regs you reference prohibits the separation of the carcass.
The only reference is on the tag. It now instructs you to keep the head with the carcass. There is no other reason to have that written on the tag other than to instruct those who have separated the carcass.

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I suppose if a "certain member" on here is stuck in the stone age and believe CO,s are running around "initialing" tags by hand and do not now use scanners to record tags that are invalidated we will get unneeded confusion.It seems pretty common sense to me that is why the tag is left with the butcher to record it being now used,the same way if they checked a camp,found 4 deer hanging with tags filled out they would also scan them into a database.There must be some way the MNR are able to track and record tags filled out.