12ga3” OO buck test group

[QUOTE=MikePal;1072069]Thanks, yet again confirms that the shoulder shot is an "anchor' shot not a kill shot. It's one of those shots that leave the deer to suffer until a kill shot is administered or the deer is left to slowly bleed out. NOT a "quick kill'.[/QUOTE

Did you not "read the article thoroughly and understand it ?????
From the above link , provided by Hardman ;

That is why the high-shoulder shot has always been a recommended aiming target among gun-hunters. The shoulder blade, at its widest section, is about a 3-inch circle — a large target for a gun-hunter — that offers a wide room for error. Bullets kill deer via trauma. A shot that misses high will hit the spinal column; a shot that misses low will take out the heart; and a rearward shot will take out the lungs.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I have years of practical first hand knowledge that trumps an internet article :)

I've hunted with a large gang (10-14) hunters for over 20 yrs. Most of that was with dogs and doing a lot of dogging. We had guys successful use buckshot to kill deer almost ever year...it was the gun/ammo of choice and the proper tool of choice for a dogger pushing a bush. The OP was right to question it's effectiveness and as many have said, from their own experiences, that when used within the range limitations it works fine.

As for shoulder shots...we had a couple of guys that use them. I can honestly say I don't remember ever seeing a deer die instantly from one, if it happened it was not the norm.

However most of the deer shot in the shoulder required a second kill shot. Sometimes the trauma was enough that the deer bleed out before the shot was necessary. But inevitably it usually laid there trying to get back up for a spell.

I did not say that the shoulder shot wasn't a kill shot...I said that it NOT a 'Quick' kill shot. It does no one any service to come on a forum and lead people to believe that a shoulder shot is a 'Quick' kill...it's NOT. Not as I have seen in my years of hunting nor have other members who have posted here.

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Well were gonna have to agree to diasagree i guess. It is 100% THE FASTEST WAY TO PUT A WHITETAIL DOWN. Most are dead before they hit the ground. Think about it? A large projectile basically becoming a grenade when hitting bone punching thru both lungs. Never needed a follow up shot. EVER. If your saying your guys use it and need a follow up shot. There probably shooting too far forward. Im sure your crew did kill some deer with buckshot. But I bet you found less than 1/2 of em. Anyway watch some videos and do some more reasearch. The high shoulder shot is 100% lethal almost immediately.

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Originally Posted by glen

The patterns I’m getting out of my barrel has me with a 25y shot max.
You know if the range is close enough it would be a lot like a slug.
I’m surprised it’s that short I thought 30 maybe 40. Anyway it’s all good info and one way or the other I’m gunna get a deer.

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Thats great you took the time to figure your maximum distance. Most do not. No doubt its deadly in CLOSE. But if you do see a deer at 40yrds its too far. Hard not to squeeze the trigger. Best of luck on your hunt.

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Originally Posted by glen

The patterns I’m getting out of my barrel has me with a 25y shot max.
You know if the range is close enough it would be a lot like a slug.
I’m surprised it’s that short I thought 30 maybe 40. Anyway it’s all good info and one way or the other I’m gunna get a deer.

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Yea I would be surprised you found an acceptable pattern past 25 yds....

Good Luck and Happy Hunting !!

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Originally Posted by jaycee

The shoulder blade, at its widest section, is about a 3-inch circle — a large target for a gun-hunter — that offers a wide room for error.

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The heart is an 8" target and you lose a lot less meat...

https://i.imgur.com/tson5Z9l.jpg

I’m on a stand and I have 25y marked so it will be easy to wait till then. I have lots of patience.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The heart is an 8" target and you lose a lot less meat...

https://i.imgur.com/tson5Z9l.jpg

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There are many hunters that do not, will not eat any organ meats so to them it doesn't matter!

Many of them are on this forum!:)
I am not one of them.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The heart is an 8" target and you lose a lot less meat...

https://i.imgur.com/tson5Z9l.jpg

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There's some backpedaling or whatever you call it. And no im not arguing a heart shot. With a slug of course.

The only way to drop a deer dead is to shoot it in the head which I hope no one tries. You typically still have to track it and find it bled out or finish it. And hopefully not using hail Mary ssgs.

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Originally Posted by fieldtrip

The only way to drop a deer dead is to shoot it in the head which I hope no one tries. You typically still have to track it and find it bled out or finish it. And hopefully not using hail Mary ssgs.

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Like this.
https://youtu.be/fJr7Ph5SGO4