Omicron Hysteria

Interesting factoid..none of the ICU patients in Ont have the Omicron variant....why isn't that headline news ?

Omicron is believed to be the dominant strain in Ontario as of Dec. 29 with 10,436 confirmed cases, though there are likely more that additional testing is needed to identify.

The Ontario government’s latest figures indicate 79 % of cases were among the fully vaccinated. According to the government, 81 per cent of Ontario’s eligible population five and older are fully inoculated.

No ICU admissions in the province have been made due to the Omicron variant, but Ontario’s top doctor Kieran Moore warns that an impact on the hospital sector is expected in “the coming days and weeks.”

from: https://globalnews.ca/news/8453515/o...ant-explained/

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Maybe I’m unique, but nothing much has changed for me, except mask wearing. Most of my family and friends get to work from home. At first it was difficult for many with kids but they figured it out. Most of those working from home are telling me they’re saving all kinds of money from not needing to travel to the office everyday.
In our late 30s and early 40’s we don’t go out clubbing, or bars or restaurants. With all the streaming options available we don’t go to movies, not that we ever did. I love my sports, but it’s always on TV.
Stores I need access to , for work or personal items, are always open. Most things are easily bought online.

I’ve gone on a few fishing trips last year and multiple hunting excursions. I rarely travel outside the BEST country in the world (pssst…..it’s Canada).

I don’t think I’m much different than many others. So maybe others have lost some rights? I’m not sure.

There’s lots of doom and gloom about government conspiracies and the idea we’re all asleep. I get that you want sell your POV, hence the negative angle all the time. But what have you got to gain from it? Let time take its course and see how it plays out.

Also, just saying, all the hype your building up, might be slightly over blown. I’m not 100% sure, but anything is possible.

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This is part of the blase and complacent attitude of most Canadians that allows these things to happen in the first place.
Wearing a mask is a severe violation of our rights. Especially since many of the 'experts' have said it doesn't work (the only masks having any measurable effect being N95 or greater). So that's a huge deal right there. It's a political symbol not a medical device. It's a sign of submission to the state and nothing more. This isn't the CCP last time I checked.

What about your kids/friend's kids having to be 'fully vaccinated' to continue their post-secondary studies...even if they are online learning only? Where is the science or sense in that? Especially now when we all know the vaccine does nothing to stop transmission...even though that's how it was rolled out initially. The schools should have made a course-correction and started accepting natural immunity tests, seeing as almost everyone has either had covid and recovered, or had 2 shots, or both. The software being used by post-secondary for online learning is quite invasive -- taking control of your webcam/microphone and essentially recording you for hours at a time alone in your room. The main company, Proctortrack has already been in some hot water with a data breach. This causes a lot of stress on students, especially those with learning disabilities or nervous ticks...the AI monitoring will pick up their eye movements and flag them as cheating, etc.

What about kids needing to be fully vaccinated to play sports?

What about small business owners having to pay out of pocket to convert their establishments into an absurd non-scientific theatre, with 'x' decals all over the floor and mountains of disposable, environment-destroying ppe that has done nothing.

Non-scientific and punitive lockdowns (and curfews in Quebec...).

Not everyone can work from home don't forget, and many people have been utterly destroyed by this plandemic.

Remember having to wait outside Home Depot for an hour to pick up a handful of screws? Being forced to purchase online (what if you want to use cash?).

The whole thing is a scandal and these are all huge violations of our rights. Whether they affect someone personally or not does not make them any less Orwellian and tyrannical.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

This is part of the blase and complacent attitude of most Canadians that allows these things to happen in the first place.
Wearing a mask is a severe violation of our rights. Especially since many of the 'experts' have said it doesn't work (the only masks having any measurable effect being N95 or greater). So that's a huge deal right there. It's a political symbol not a medical device. It's a sign of submission to the state and nothing more. This isn't the CCP last time I checked.

What about your kids/friend's kids having to be 'fully vaccinated' to continue their post-secondary studies...even if they are online learning only? Where is the science or sense in that? Especially now when we all know the vaccine does nothing to stop transmission...even though that's how it was rolled out initially. The schools should have made a course-correction and started accepting natural immunity tests, seeing as almost everyone has either had covid and recovered, or had 2 shots, or both. The software being used by post-secondary for online learning is quite invasive -- taking control of your webcam/microphone and essentially recording you for hours at a time alone in your room. The main company, Proctortrack has already been in some hot water with a data breach. This causes a lot of stress on students, especially those with learning disabilities or nervous ticks...the AI monitoring will pick up their eye movements and flag them as cheating, etc.

What about kids needing to be fully vaccinated to play sports?

What about small business owners having to pay out of pocket to convert their establishments into an absurd non-scientific theatre, with 'x' decals all over the floor and mountains of disposable, environment-destroying ppe that has done nothing.

Non-scientific and punitive lockdowns (and curfews in Quebec...).

Not everyone can work from home don't forget, and many people have been utterly destroyed by this plandemic.

Remember having to wait outside Home Depot for an hour to pick up a handful of screws? Being forced to purchase online (what if you want to use cash?).

The whole thing is a scandal and these are all huge violations of our rights. Whether they affect someone personally or not does not make them any less Orwellian and tyrannical.

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The more I read up on these type of responses the more I realize that society is too caught up in the idea of “I want it now”. What’s wrong with precautions and a wait and see approach?

Masks are not an infringement on human rights. N95’s in high traffic areas with a highly transmissible virus is common sense. Until you know the long term effects of the virus, why take the chance of getting it? You want a real sign of submission, go get your drivers licence, hunting licence, fishing licence, etc. Playing by the rules is not a sign of submission. Caring about your neighbour is not a sign of submission.

There’s no complacency here. It’s more of a methodical patience to understand more of what’s going on. There’s no need to overreact and play the blame game or point fingers until all the information is out. This will probably take years. I just don’t believe in taking sides and being defiant when no one knows exactly what’s going on.

No one is forcing you to get a vaccine!! Repeat!!

“Plandemic” is an assumption based on a cynical attitude. Until there’s solid information out there to make an educated decision, it’s just a conspiracy theory.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

The more I read up on these type of responses the more I realize that society is too caught up in the idea of “I want it now”. What’s wrong with precautions and a wait and see approach?

Masks are not an infringement on human rights. N95’s in high traffic areas with a highly transmissible virus is common sense. Until you know the long term effects of the virus, why take the chance of getting it? You want a real sign of submission, go get your drivers licence, hunting licence, fishing licence, etc. Playing by the rules is not a sign of submission. Caring about your neighbour is not a sign of submission.

There’s no complacency here. It’s more of a methodical patience to understand more of what’s going on. There’s no need to overreact and play the blame game or point fingers until all the information is out. This will probably take years. I just don’t believe in taking sides and being defiant when no one knows exactly what’s going on.

No one is forcing you to get a vaccine!! Repeat!!

“Plandemic” is an assumption based on a cynical attitude. Until there’s solid information out there to make an educated decision, it’s just a conspiracy theory.

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Everything you say makes sense when you take advice from these experts

https://twitter.com/i/status/1473659275394396160

Talk about being duped in less than a year...

https://globalnews.ca/news/8464813/c...ted-scientist/

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

No one is forcing you to get a vaccine!! Repeat!!

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Only because we have protection in the 'Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms'. That stopped the Liberal Government from imposing mandated vaccinations. It would be illegal. In fact, there are some of the mandated measures that were made, will be facing a court challenge.

edit add: you do know the sole purpose of the Covid passport was to 'force' more of the unvaccinated to get the vaccine right ??

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That is your assumption.

Mine, is that they had preliminary data that pointed out unvaccinated individuals suffered more serious affects due to previous variants of covid and were therefore trying to prevent an overflow of patients in our seriously mismanaged healthcare system. We don’t really know. But we will in time.

We will "in time" see the complete Globalist agenda. It is no longer a theory but a conspiracy.

Read up on it. Klaus Schwab makes no effort to hide any of it.

https://www.weforum.org/about/klaus-schwab

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

The more I read up on these type of responses the more I realize that society is too caught up in the idea of “I want it now”. What’s wrong with precautions and a wait and see approach?

Masks are not an infringement on human rights. N95’s in high traffic areas with a highly transmissible virus is common sense. Until you know the long term effects of the virus, why take the chance of getting it? You want a real sign of submission, go get your drivers licence, hunting licence, fishing licence, etc. Playing by the rules is not a sign of submission. Caring about your neighbour is not a sign of submission.

There’s no complacency here. It’s more of a methodical patience to understand more of what’s going on. There’s no need to overreact and play the blame game or point fingers until all the information is out. This will probably take years. I just don’t believe in taking sides and being defiant when no one knows exactly what’s going on.

No one is forcing you to get a vaccine!! Repeat!!

“Plandemic” is an assumption based on a cynical attitude. Until there’s solid information out there to make an educated decision, it’s just a conspiracy theory.

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If you don't believe being forced to muzzle yourself is a violation of our rights then I'm not sure we'll be able to proceed any further in the conversation.

I've heard those arguments before ("oh yeah, what about seat belts, obeying traffic lights?," etc.) and they are not the same thing at all. No one is calling for complete anarchy and subversion of basic licensing rules by simply pointing out the absurdity / hypocrisy of all the mandates over the past 2 years.

Caring about your neighbour is respecting and standing up for their God-given freedoms, even those you may disagree with. There's no higher form of respect than that. Continuing to believe the narrative that's been exposed and debunked multiple times over is not caring for your neighbour. Living in a state of fear and supporting lockdowns and bogus health measures for a virus with a 99% survival rate is not caring for your neighbour and is very much a sign of submission.

No need to over react? We've had 2 years of our lives stolen from us. Thousands of people have died because of missed treatments, mental health/suicide, etc. Young children are experiencing learning & developmental problems from constant mask wearing and are now conditioned to think this is normal. Kids have had milestone life events (graduation, prom, etc.) taken from them. The anxiety level among our youth, which was already high to begin with, is up like crazy. Many businesses have been completely ruined. Those who dared take a stand against the tyranny have been smeared and slandered at every turn. It's not an over reaction to be upset about this and to rightly point fingers where they deserve to be pointed -- corrupt leaders in cahoots with corrupt business, and complacent, scared citizens.

How much more evidence do you need at this stage to realize how we've all been played?

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

That is your assumption. ..

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Why vaccine passports may be an important tool in boosting vaccination rates should be the main objectives of a vaccine passport.

One of the most important goals is to increase vaccine uptake, experts say.

And that's particularly important at this stage of Canada's vaccine campaign, where the number of people getting double dosed has "slowed considerably," said Dr. Nazeem Muhajarine, professor of community health and epidemiology at the University of Saskatchewan.

"The point is to get us to that herd immunity, a clear majority, 85 to 90 per cent of the population fully vaccinated," he said. "We are not there yet."

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The emerging evidence, though partly observational, suggests the passports can both increase vaccination rates and create safer environments, says Timothy Caulfield, Canada Research Chair in health law and policy at the University of Alberta.

"Most Canadian research increasingly tells us this," Caulfield said, though he acknowledges researchers don't have as much empirical evidence as they would like.

When French President Emmanuel Macron announced his country's vaccine passport policy, more than a million people signed up to receive a shot, according to government figures.

The same phenomenon occurred in some Canadian provinces. Ontario Ministry of Health officials say appointments doubled following the government's recent passport announcement. Quebec reported similar results.

"So right away, we know it works to encourage and incentivize people who are on the fence," Deonandan said.

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from: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/vacci...nces-1.6178203

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Only because we have protection in the 'Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms'. That stopped the Liberal Government from imposing mandated vaccinations. It would be illegal. In fact, there are some of the mandated measures that were made, will be facing a court challenge.

edit add: you do know the sole purpose of the Covid passport was to 'force' more of the unvaccinated to get the vaccine right ??

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I guess he doesn't associate the word coercion with with the word force for some strange reason. So coercing people to get jabbed over threats of job loss, mandating mask wearing, denying entry without proof of vaccination, arresting pastors for holding religious services, or even trying to deny people entrance to grocery stores like New Brunswick just tried has nothing to do with forcing.
Well birdbuff I suggest you try using a dictionary once in a while to make sure you use proper terms. I'll start with this one for you to make it easy. This is the definition of coercion. "Coercion is compelling a party to act in an involuntary manner by use of threats, including force." See how easy that was? You're already a smarter person lol.