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Bad shots taken out of range . Not enough time to practice, hitting the shoulder and deflecting the shot . Not properly ranging the deer using the wrong sight pin. Shooting from up above the deer in a stand will not put the arrow where ya want it .Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
I'm sure there is more that's just off the top. Using a buck shot or a bow would have the same restrictions.
People hit and loose deer every year with bows .
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Except that when bow hunting for big game there's no other choice but to use arrows and broadheads.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Choosing to use buckshot over slugs is like carrying a bow in gun season.
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All depends on where or what your hunting . If you're in a area where 40 yard shots are mostly impossible then buck shot all the way . If your hunting fields and open areas the slug would be better . Every property would be different depending on the land and set up. So the use between both shots would be up the land and hunter either way both very effective depending on the land you hunt .Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
This topic could on forever but in the end they are both equally deadly depending on where you hunt
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In the areas I have hunted I think the farthest shot I have seen was under 50 yards and the majority were probably even under 30 yards. I know the distance for 30 yards quite well as my driveway is 30 yards and my yard is 100 yards.
When properly used there is nothing wrong with buck shot. There is no more reason to ban buckshot than there is bow hunting.
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Originally Posted by GW11
This is the equivalent of a cannabis vs alcohol topic, it could go on forever. I'm not a drinker but I must be a fool because I use the cannabis . I only buy beer to make my beer batter during the winter to fry my fish.
Now let's keep on the topic of slugs vs buckshot they are both deadly and both equally effective under certain circumstances.
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Originally Posted by camotrky
Explain why buckshot is not effective when used within its range limit?
I would agree that under the right circumstances buckshot is devastating. I have had it loaded on a few occasions, especially for when I "dog" this one swamp and most shots would be under 20 yards.
That being said the last two deer I shot with a shotgun were with 20 gauge slugs at no more than 15 yards. Buckshot would have done the job but Ionger shots were possible so I was using slugs.
My brother shot a deer last week at 170 yards in a field with a 20 gauge slug. No brainer... if hunting fields use slugs or set up a yardage marker at your maximum buckshot range. Be prepared to watch deer walk away at longer ranges.
I also agree that "banning" buckshot is not the answer. Education on its limitations is a better start. Same way that bow hunters need to educate themselves on the limitations of what they're using.
My point a few posts back was more a question of why limit yourself to buckshot when slugs are good up close or at much longer ranges? My only reason for using buckshot while dogging that swamp is that my H&R slug gun weighs a ton and my light and handy double barrel is good enough for that one specific use.
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Single projectile with a broadhead. You know where it goes everytime unless deflected or obstructed. Buckshot is many projectiles which cant be controlled. You cannot guarantee where it goes everytime. Unless your extremely close. In no way shape or form can you compare buckshot to a single projectile. Why would one limit himself to such short distances (30yrds or whatever everyone is saying). Learn to shoot slugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
After 19 pages you still refuse to see the other side. Buckshot guys conceded that slugs are the way to go when distance and accuracy is called for why can't you do the same to conceded that where short quick shots are called for buckshot is the way to go?Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
Don't deer hunt closest that I can relate to is rabbit hunting.
If I'm hunting snowshoes during a January thaw where I am head shooting sitting rabbits than I'll use my 22. If I'm stomping bushes and shooting running cottontails I'll reach for the shotgun.
If I listen to you than I should still use that 22 when hunting cottontails.
Does that make sense?
But what if your not limiting yourself to that distance? What if that's all you have work with?Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
I'm not going to argue the single projectoty arrow or slug vs buck . Just the different areas and ways to hunt differ in each circumstance. It's all about using the tools you know and work and how they work. I bet a Buck shot will hit a vital at moving deer before a slug for a lot of shooters. Within its limits.
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