I was out yesterday to a bay close to my house, that is attached to Lake Ontario . Lots of skaters close to shore, but a couple of fishermen out a little further on about 4 inches of ice, open water 100 yards away. They had a couple of pike on the ice, the biggest about 30 inches long, very skinny , not much weight. 10 feet of water and dead minnows under a bobber is what they used.