Have never had that happen......yet !Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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Have never had that happen......yet !Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
This is a fundamental flaw in our system, and no one bothers to use a common sense to fix it to everyone's satisfaction.
If the hunter has to do all reasonable effort to retrieve the wounded animal-WHY the government do not give tools to the hunters to do it?
One tool would be a call in number:-i am here ,side road this and that.I have to enter this property for the purpose of retrieving a wounded animal 'this or that'shot here or there,this way or that way.I will be with 1-2 -3 other hunters.We are entering the 'south' side ,and have intention to be out by ... Name ,licence number etc.
Then if something happens-it is on the hunter,if the owner has complaints-there is a name to go after-if the owner meets them-they are in clear,as long as they abide by rules.
Kind of a limited ,one time" limited right to enter "permit.
I would be all for ,even if they would charge a common fee-like for administration and insurance purposes.
Privilege-so no one can abuse it-if you do-you are done for a life with it.
Then RAISE HUGE the "trespassing to hunt" penalties or suspend the licence for 1 -2 seasons for any trespasser.
We are allowed to do similar call in thing for roadkill..........
Easy-simple.
I do not expect miracles and agreement -but anything else is just going away from real world, and sticking our head in the sand.
If you get shutdown from the land owner call in the MNR they will help you out
MNRF can’t give you permission to trespass. If landowner don’t want you on his property, there’s nothing you can do about it.
Best for you to figure this out before the shot.
Yup thats right. Land owner has finally say. We even had MNR talk to land owner and ask if just HE could go retrieve. (We seen the deer go down)Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
But nope, land owner ended up burying it with skidsteer and now hates us even more. Here we thought we would get on his good side by asking instead of trespassing, But in hind sight it would have better to trespass and retrieve it. Hell, even tell him we trespassed and take the fine would have been better LOL
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I think the prudent thing to do, is get permission prior to the hunt. I'm fortunate in that I have exclusive permission for a couple of properties, but I also have permission from adjoining landowners to "retrieve" a wounded (or dead) deer that may run onto their land. I've gone so far, when asking that permission, to explain to them that my going onto their property to retrieve, is basically "hunting". If you can't see the animal laying there dead, you would be considered "hunting" when you go search for it. Explain that to the JP? If a person does not have prior permission, then a note just won't cut it and you could very well be charged.
One of our group is a local farmer who knows everybody in the area. Although we can’t get permission to hunt everywhere, he could probably get permission to retrieve game if required. Thankfully, this has only happened once in 30 years,
"Trespassing Is a pretty small deal verses an unrecovered animal In my ethical opinion."Quote:
Originally Posted by diverduck
Here is a thought to consider, you track a wound animal on to private property that is being hunted. Nobody expects your presence there, so you are actually putting yourself in the line of fire of other hunters. If you make enough noise it is possible they may pick up the fact that your movements are that a hunter crashing through the bush and not game, and hopefully they have absorbed enough hunting ethics to clear identify their game before they start shooting. Otherwise your unrecovered animal may end up being you.
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
This is a grey area in my opinion and a balance must be struck with the law that says that you must make every effort to recover game and respecting landowner property rights.
If an animal runs and expires 10 feet from the property line boundary, who is in reality going to to through all that trouble? Also do landowners really want abandoned dead animals on their land in this situation? I know I would not - get your animal out!. On the other hand, if the animal runs and expires deep behind the property line or for example behind the landowner's house or barn, It makes sense that one would need to talk to the owner before attempting a recovery.
If in any doubt on a situation like this, call the MNR and they will help.
I wouldn't be too concern about a hunter abandoning the pursuit of a wound animal that finds it way on my property, in nature nothing is wasted. I once came across the spinal column and a bit of the pelvic girdle that the coyotes left after cleaning the rest of the deer. I suspect no effort was ever made to even track it. Some hunter probably peppered a bunch of shots at it and figure he missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahuntr300
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.