i mean, if im in the middle of the forest hunting not close to anyone, i think thats still better than the people going to parties every weekend.
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i mean, if im in the middle of the forest hunting not close to anyone, i think thats still better than the people going to parties every weekend.
X2. This "regulation" has been left with more holes than a fishing net. Discretion is being left up to individual bylaw enforcement and police personnel. How can they be expected to enforce this nonsense without clear,concise guidelines? Gee,what could possibly go wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
Legal parameters are being laid out now by Ford on the news.
EDIT: it still sounds more like suggestions than any actual new laws.
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I think they are trying to give power to the LEOs to actually do something other than warnings for the obvious BS that is going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
I think, behind the scenes the Cops are starting to push back....it's irrational to do this to people in a Free and Democratic society who are protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Most of what they will be forced to do will NOT stand up in court in the aftermath.
It all hinges on can the provincial Government substantiate it being an 'Emergency' ...and as we have seen, if you study the data and the numbers..ie: in my area with only 27 'cases' in a population of 173,000 does not constitute an 'emergency'.
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Logically, emergency orders may only be made during an emergency. The conditions for what constitutes a state of emergency are high. It is defined under the Emergency Measures and Civil Protection Act (EMPCA) as “a danger of major proportions that could result in serious harm to persons or substantial damage to property.” A state of emergency also requires that the government’s normally available resources (including legislation) may not be reliable or may be insufficient.
Fishing and hunting is allowed, as per a news release within the last hour from OFAH (after consultation with gov't.) Fish and hunt on...
https://www.ofah.org/covid19/?fbclid...X78rEjxLeb5Rsk
No, it is not here, but the grey zones in and around Toronto showed that they will travel, so we get screwed because of people who have the virus and probably not knowing it, going to other areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
The state of emergency will allow more charges, which may stop people from doing things like getting together with friends who just arrived from the UK and brought the new strain with them. Or the people that rent an Air B&B and have a covid party of a couple hundred people. I do not suspect they will stopping you when you are out for a walk to ask you where you are headed, at least I do not expect that.
You are correct, many of the charges would not stick if challenged, but they people have to challenge them and deal with all that crap, which most don't want to do.
because people travel to your area... again doesn't constitute an imminent danger to you or your property..if so then the Fed would send in the Army to stop the traffic flow..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I wonder if a constitutional lawyer (firm) could submit a class action challenge for all those 'tickets' and get a blanket immunity once all is said and done.
At $1k to $1.5K a pop I think more people will submit challenges. Can you imagine how long it will take Provincial courts to see all the challenge to tickets issued, accumulated over a year, from this debacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I don't think very many people want to go to court, so the majority will just abide by the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal