Stay away from Indianapolis

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I spent a good deal of my career on Military bases, ranges and field exercises that seeing guy carrying a gun is second nature to me.
Of course it made me feels safer Haha..

If your not accustomed to it, it may look out of place like here in Canada..but down south it's almost common enough you don't think twice about it.

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The vast majority of Americans are not gun users for the most part and even less have the ability to quickly determine who is the bad guy. What is scarier than 1 guy with a gun? I would say a store full of people packing who have no idea what they are doing when 1 guy comes in with a gun. Picture it now, gun comes in with a pistol and starts shooting. Gun owner 1 pulls gun, gun owner 2-50 pull their guns, now how do they determine who was the first person with the gun? You now have 51 people shooting at 50 people with guns with bystanders everywhere. If someone is fully trained with guns, their used, how to shoot tactically and identify the source then that is one thing but the blanket "good guy with a gun" gets dangerous very fast.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

It is too late to do anything about guns - too many and too engrained into American culture - just need more good guys with a gun - it is just the price you pay from living in a free society - give me liberty or give me death - unfortunately some people get killed - if you give up freedom for safety you will end up with neither -

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I'm with you Joe. I have never once Been to the USA and felt unsafe and I have been coast to coast and once the borders open again I look forward to visiting again the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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Originally Posted by Bowjob

there's a difference between someone in uniform/ military/ training and a civilian carrying LOL haha

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No there is not lol. A cop in uniform is on some human tracking sex charges near me . Just because they have a badge or uniform don't make them all better lol.



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Originally Posted by fishfood

No there is not lol. A cop in uniform is on some human tracking sex charges near me . Just because they have a badge or uniform don't make them all better lol.



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Exactly fishfood most are good but some are as crooked as a sway back horse same can be said for catholic priests.

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Originally Posted by Bowjob

@mike, there's a difference between someone in uniform/ military/ training and a civilian carrying LOL haha

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Not really, most people who carry a holster in open carry are licensed well vetted and responsible citizens, most like a professional enforcement of some kind.

If you feel anxiety when you see a gun, it's more 'your' issue than a real issue.

Fox - it doesn't work that way - I'm in a grocery store packing a 38 Special in my waist holster under my jacket - some nut comes in the store and starts shooting at people - I see the guy and jump behind a counter - draw my pistol and shoot the nut - we don't start shooting at each other - you shoot after you are sure of your target - all of these shootings occur in gun free zones because there isn't anyone to stop the nut from shooting people - me being there is no different than a cop being there - I see a lot of guys wearing a gun open carry and feel safer because because I know there are guys around in case a shooting incident occurs - a bad guy doesn't walk around with a gun on this side -

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Not really, most people who carry a holster in open carry are licensed well vetted and responsible citizens, most like a professional enforcement of some kind.

If you feel anxiety when you see a gun, it's more 'your' issue than a real issue.

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That is one part that scares me, are there actually checks and vetting for those who have open carry in the US? The rules are state to state and some cities and counties having their own rules. Being allowed ans safe to own a gun does not necessarily mean that someone should be allowed to carry for protection.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Not really, most people who carry a holster in open carry are licensed well vetted and responsible citizens, most like a professional enforcement of some kind.

If you feel anxiety when you see a gun, it's more 'your' issue than a real issue.

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Agree 100%.

I think the U.S is a messed up place, with messed up values. It is destined to be broken apart. I don’t see how people so very different can stay united. The last elections results are an indication of the divide. I think it is unavoidable.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I think the U.S is a messed up place, with messed up values. It is destined to be broken apart. I don’t see how people so very different can stay united. The last elections results are an indication of the divide. I think it is unavoidable.

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So,in your opinion,the south shall rise again? I have relatives in Georgia who would for sure agree. The coming civil war will not be between north and south,though. It will be between right and left......republicanism vs. socialism/communism and it will be ugly.