COVID-19 Vaccine to come in pill form?

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

Well scrolling through a lot of the off topic forum stuff leaves me thinking that there are a lot of members who would benefit from taking regular medication.

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Well, if the forum is not to your liking why don't you leave?
Its not like you contribute anything in regards to hunting and fishing.
Insulting members will only alienate you.

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Originally Posted by Fox

Both of your statements are BS, the fact is that every single generation in history has said the same thing about kids and a lack of respect.

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How is it BS ? ...every generation IS different...it's been studied and proven...here'a study done by a dept of education...it's clear that the Older generations are right...succeeding generations are different ..some for the better some not so much:

https://www.usf.edu/hr-training/docu...enceschart.pdf

A trip to the back of the wood shed.
A rap across the knuckles in school by a Nun yielding a yard stick.

Yep, the good old days of being taught to pay respect to elders.
Funny how animals still us corporal punishment on their young but we as humans now believe it is bad.

"In Canada, spanking by parents or legal guardians (but nobody else) is legal, as long as the child is between the ages of 2–12, and no implement other than an open, bare hand is used (belts, paddles, etc. are strictly prohibited). It is also illegal to strike the head when disciplining a child."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment

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Originally Posted by impact

A group of doctors told me last year "We don't know anything about this mRNA vaccine. The microbiologists are in a world of their own. It could be the cure all holy grail or cause cancer in a few years"

This gene therapy drug was initially developed as a treatment for cancer and rushed to market as an emergency use vaccine for covid in the space of a few months. Lets see what happens. There are reports of adverse reactions. You can track in the link below.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ine-safety/#a6

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No disputing that it was rushed, however, mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy. Gene therapy involves either outright gene replacement or gene modification. The vaccines do neither they simply use messenger RNA to deliver instructions to DNA to produce anti bodies.

As for doctors I have 6 doctor friends who all recommend it off the record. They are from 4 different countries and 4 of them are surgeons and 2 are respiratory specialists and none of them are liberals. I will take their advice over anything posted on any internet site either for or against.

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Originally Posted by impact

Well, if the forum is not to your liking why don't you leave?
Its not like you contribute anything in regards to hunting and fishing.
Insulting members will only alienate you.

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Are there that many snowflakes here? I’ve been labeled a troll pretty much since day one. Had my bonafides question because I might have an opinion that differs from the echo chamber. Might I suggest you find the ignore button, add me to your list and lighten up already. It's still a free country last time I check, although according to some here we are steps away from being more communist than Norh Korea. Oh, and have a great day!

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Originally Posted by Species8472

No disputing that it was rushed, however, mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy. Gene therapy involves either outright gene replacement or gene modification. The vaccines do neither they simply use messenger RNA to deliver instructions to DNA to produce anti bodies.

As for doctors I have 6 doctor friends who all recommend it off the record. They are from 4 different countries and 4 of them are surgeons and 2 are respiratory specialists and none of them are liberals. I will take their advice over anything posted on any internet site either for or against.

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Are your doctor friends part of this group of professionals?

https://gbdeclaration.org/

"As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity."

"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection."

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Originally Posted by impact

Are your doctor friends part of this group of professionals?

https://gbdeclaration.org/

"As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity."

"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection."

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Don'y know if they are or not. Looking at their declaration and if they are who they say they are they seem like a credible bunch. There approach seems reasonable and actually is not that far out of line with what has happened in some parts of the States - herd immunity through a combination of exposure and vaccination.

Was actually supposed to have all my doc friends fly in this past March for a week of sledding and ice fishing but that all got kiboshed. Latest plan was to meet in the upper Peruvian Amazon for 2 weeks of Rainforest kayaking and camping in September but that looks unlikely as well right now.

I said in the first lockdown the USA would be in a better position before Canada. It's probably in the first lockdown thread.


Impact
They made the vaccine is in like 34 to 38 days something like that.

Took them 12 years of previous trials for it to come to an end because it kept making re infection worse and killed the animals.

Might be a good idea to wait even the mnra was released before it's time before it would have been approved by years. New reports of some nerve issues with people not being able to feel parts of their body. Was a in the news today they can't say for sure but are looking into it.

Going by the numbers lots of people don't need the vaccine. I guess if your over 60 you should talk to your doctor. I would not recommend it to anyone under 40 .

The flu kills more under 40 than covid. According to government information.

The news makes it sound like a war zone.

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Originally Posted by impact

I am pro vaccine. I got the seasonal influenza shot last November.
I am also current with the shingles shot and hepatitis due to my line of work.
Add tetanus to the list as well and probably forgetting one or two.

I am anti experimental vaccines. Especially when they are pushed as part of an agenda.
I read the labels and if I do not like what I see its a pass for me.

Its like when a used car salesman is pitching the vehicle at you under pressure.
Sometimes best to walk away.

A group of doctors told me last year "We don't know anything about this mRNA vaccine. The microbiologists are in a world of their own. It could be the cure all holy grail or cause cancer in a few years"

This gene therapy drug was initially developed as a treatment for cancer and rushed to market as an emergency use vaccine for covid in the space of a few months. Lets see what happens. There are reports of adverse reactions. You can track in the link below.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...ine-safety/#a6

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Your sources are YouTube, yes these need to be analyzed but we are looking at a very low number of issues with a vaccine that has been developed in a very short period of time. The fact that this was developed quickly does not mean it is bill gates tracking you or the world health organization reorganizing the world. You have the right to not take this vaccine, there is nothing forcing you but you are straight up sharing conspiracies, I am waiting for you to claim the world is flat or that we are the products of aliens.

I get that you are scared of this, that is totally valid, but these scientists are trying and doing all of this with the greatest education in the field, not some guy tossing a few chemicals in a blender and feeding it to the masses.

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Originally Posted by Fox

Your sources are YouTube, yes these need to be analyzed but we are looking at a very low number of issues with a vaccine that has been developed in a very short period of time. The fact that this was developed quickly does not mean it is bill gates tracking you or the world health organization reorganizing the world. You have the right to not take this vaccine, there is nothing forcing you but you are straight up sharing conspiracies, I am waiting for you to claim the world is flat or that we are the products of aliens.

I get that you are scared of this, that is totally valid, but these scientists are trying and doing all of this with the greatest education in the field, not some guy tossing a few chemicals in a blender and feeding it to the masses.

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Well put Fox. YouTube and Facebook are pretty sketchy places for information. In fact, development of the mRNA vaccine has been 20 years in the making. Here is some non-mainstream media science info: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1. One only has to look at Israel to see the effects of vaccinations and India at the problems that occur when very few have them. Say what you want, but it's pure science. One population doesn't get sick and another does. Pretty damn good evidence.