awesome thanks stu for the info!
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I got caught with the eye relief thing on one scope too. The rings would not allow the scope to go back any further and I figured it was good enough at 4x I would be fine. Cranked it up to 12x and had to lean in and was very uncomfortable to get a nice full scope picture. I hunted that year with a narrow field of view and promptly bought offset rings the next off season.