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Our concession road is rural although monster homes are starting to pop up. It is hilly, many twists, several hidden driveways (including mine,) lots of cyclists and frequent slow moving farm vehicles. I've got just under 500 meters of frontage and don't want some crotch rocket creep's roadside memorial on my fence line.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Seems to me that speed limits should be set to reflect winter driving conditions, not summer. So a back road that can be driven safely in the summer at 80kph would be a death trap in the winter at that speed, especially for novice drivers.
Not only novice drivers but the nitwits that think 4x4 and AWD is invincible.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
I was told when I started driving, think of the dumbest person you know. They have a driver's license.
I still can't help but think some driving laws are more towards revenue under the guise of public safety. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
When drivers speed,they often overdrive not only their own capabilities,but,those of the vehicle they're driving. No ordinary vehicles have high performance steering and suspension systems or tires suitable for high speed. Speed limits are set by MTO engineers to match optimum driving conditions for the type of roadway. It takes only a split second misjudgement to set events in motion that eliminate any chance of recovery usually with tragic results. The worst multiple fatality MVC's I was ever called to occurred on "back country" highways and county roads.
Speed limits are set based on a roads design speed, all larger roads and new roads have a design speed. Usually the posted limits are 20 to 30 kph under the design speed which does take winter driving (not during a storm) in to account.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Long way of saying that's how it is done now aside from old roads and forced roads.
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http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pub...l-report.shtml
Category Number of Fatalities Percentage of Total Fatalities*
Pedestrian fatalities 109 20.0%
Large truck collisions 126 23.0%
Drinking and driving collisions 49** 10.0%
Inattentive driving collisions 85 15.7%
Speed-related collisions 80 14.7%
Motorcyclist fatalities 54 10.0%
Unbelted occupant fatalities 77 14.0
Use to talk to a tow truck driver everyday.
Hes seen some screwed up things in his life, and the 1 thing he always said is he never wears a seat belt anymore. He's seen so many people decapitated by their seat belts its insane.
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Decaptitated by seatbelts? I think your tow truck buddy was zingin' you. Granted,seatbelts aren't the be-all and end-all because some crashes are so horrific that nothing would save a driver,but,by and large,more people survive who were wearing seatbelts than those who weren't. 75% of the county and secondary road fatalities I was sent to were single vehicle roll overs where the driver was ejected. Seat belts definitely would have increased their odds of survival exponentially. The worst I ever saw was a body found 25' up in tree. The next were drivers absent where we had a wreck with no one around until the tow truck uprighted the vehicle. The dead driver was underneath. Again,seatbelts would have likely prevented deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
Then I think the argument is that they should raise those road's limits to 80 ... but if a speed limit genuinely needs to be 60 km/h ... going 100 km/h is a bit insane, I have to admit. This coming from a guy that owns an Audi TT RS. Save it for the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter