Know Your Rights

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Originally Posted by JoePa

- cops often try to work around these rights but lately a lot of them are getting in trouble

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The evolution of dash cams, personal video cameras in phones and cops body cams have been instrumental in showing us what really goes on...both sides of the confrontation.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

What you were watching happened in Canada not in the States - down here a cop can't lawfully stop you unless you commit a traffic violation - if he does you can file a complaint and if you think it is worth it sue the cop - the one thing I notice that is different in Canada is up there a cop will arrest you even if he is not sure if you committed a crime - he lets the judge determine what the outcome is - down here a cop needs to be certain what law was broken before he arrests you otherwise it is a false arrest and that could have consequences for the cop - there are places where the cops set up check points where a driver can be stopped and asked if he was drinking or if the cop smells booze on the driver - these are not random stops because everyone is checked as they pass through the check point -

We have to 5th amendment that allows us to keep quiet and answer no questions - we have the 4th amendment that protects us from unlawful search and seizure and the 1st amendment to be able to express our opinion and take pictures of the cops - cops often try to work around these rights but lately a lot of them are getting in trouble

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Finally watched more than the first minute. That is nothing new JoePa, cops like to use bully tactics in Canada. Most of the sheepish and uneducated will automatically comply. Then there are those who know their rights and exercise them when needed.

If you allow yourself to be walked on, blame nobody but yourself, welcome to the great white north

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Well, it’s the law ! Don’t like it, work at having it changed !

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I thought I just did by speaking up against it :)

The powers that be, should have never given this tool to the police. Doing something wrong, sure pull me other and check me out but pull me over because they feel like it, (their bored or maybe they got a bet going with their buddy who knows because they never have to tell us why they pulled on over) is wrong. We dropped the ball by letting this law pass.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

RIDE programs are widely understood as being nothing more than a giant PR awareness exercise used specifically at holiday times throughout the country. The fact is that officers on general patrol arrest more impaired drivers than the RIDE programs.

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Out in the rural areas the RIDE is the only way...far too many road miles to keep an eye on everyone. Best to set up RIDEs at places that cross rivers etc that funnel drivers.

I hit traps regularly....one was an officer just standing in the middle of the road in a small village checking for seats belts as you rounded the corner. Barely had the traffic even slow down.

I got stopped by a RIDE at 11:00 am one morning at a bridge. I asked the officer how successful they were at that time of the day...she said you'd be amazed at how many charges they laid.

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Originally Posted by fratri

I thought I just did by speaking up against it :)

The powers that be, should have never given this tool to the police. Doing something wrong, sure pull me other and check me out but pull me over because they feel like it, (their bored or maybe they got a bet going with their buddy who knows because they never have to tell us why they pulled on over) is wrong. We dropped the ball by letting this law pass.

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Well, I guess if you have had to scrape some innocent person out of their car, or off the road as a result of some impaired driver, then have to go tell their mother, father, kids, that that person wasn’t coming home…..your opinions would change !
But keep blaming the cops !!!

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Originally Posted by fratri

I thought I just did by speaking up against it :)

The powers that be, should have never given this tool to the police. Doing something wrong, sure pull me other and check me out but pull me over because they feel like it, (their bored or maybe they got a bet going with their buddy who knows because they never have to tell us why they pulled on over) is wrong. We dropped the ball by letting this law pass.

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Yep…. Posting on a hunting forum will surely get the laws changed !!!

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Originally Posted by JoePa

What you were watching happened in Canada not in the States - down here a cop can't lawfully stop you unless you commit a traffic violation - if he does you can file a complaint and if you think it is worth it sue the cop - the one thing I notice that is different in Canada is up there a cop will arrest you even if he is not sure if you committed a crime - he lets the judge determine what the outcome is - down here a cop needs to be certain what law was broken before he arrests you otherwise it is a false arrest and that could have consequences for the cop - there are places where the cops set up check points where a driver can be stopped and asked if he was drinking or if the cop smells booze on the driver - these are not random stops because everyone is checked as they pass through the check point -

We have to 5th amendment that allows us to keep quiet and answer no questions - we have the 4th amendment that protects us from unlawful search and seizure and the 1st amendment to be able to express our opinion and take pictures of the cops - cops often try to work around these rights but lately a lot of them are getting in trouble

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Once again you have no idea.

You better believe they can and will arrest you for doing nothing down there, they will shoot you for doing nothing down there.

Do do not have to answer any questions in Canada either, you can also have charges laid on the cops and or sue them.

Maybe you should look into how many cops get off with murder down there before posting videos of guys acting like pricks in Canada getting charged by the cops with no context.

Have you watched the video of the guy running away from the cop in the park when he pulls out his gun and unloads a full clip into his back, maybe you should.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

What you were watching happened in Canada not in the States - down here a cop can't lawfully stop you unless you commit a traffic violation - if he does you can file a complaint and if you think it is worth it sue the cop - the one thing I notice that is different in Canada is up there a cop will arrest you even if he is not sure if you committed a crime - he lets the judge determine what the outcome is - down here a cop needs to be certain what law was broken before he arrests you otherwise it is a false arrest and that could have consequences for the cop - there are places where the cops set up check points where a driver can be stopped and asked if he was drinking or if the cop smells booze on the driver - these are not random stops because everyone is checked as they pass through the check point -

We have to 5th amendment that allows us to keep quiet and answer no questions - we have the 4th amendment that protects us from unlawful search and seizure and the 1st amendment to be able to express our opinion and take pictures of the cops - cops often try to work around these rights but lately a lot of them are getting in trouble

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Cops “up here” do not arrest people if they are unsure an arrestable offence has been
committed. They must have grounds to arrest. As far as traffic stops, police have the authority to stop a driver to check for valid licences. They do not have to see an offence committed. The nitwit in your video was driving, stopped lawfully, and refused to identify himself or produce a licence. He should have been in the back seat, rather than left to argue with the officer….at least in Ontario…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9bSwZ6Tjg - here's what happens when you know the law

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Cops “up here” do not arrest people if they are unsure an arrestable offence has been
committed. They must have grounds to arrest. As far as traffic stops, police have the authority to stop a driver to check for valid licences. They do not have to see an offence committed. The nitwit in your video was driving, stopped lawfully, and refused to identify himself or produce a licence. He should have been in the back seat, rather than left to argue with the officer….at least in Ontario…..

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Sadly not all cops are honest. That's why many hate being recorded...