Pfizer Course Has 23% Efficacy Vs. Omicron

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Until the 4th one

I've seen so much back and forth discussions in the last few days. Everyone is in a panic really what is a third shot going to do ? Evidence shows its getting past the boosters I posted that the other day. Full outbreaks with fully vaccinated and boosters.

What we are seeing is a salesman at work.
And if the shots are not going to be effective from the Vaccinations then it's a perfect the time to stop jabbing the kids. That is why they wanted to give it to the children is it not to slow the spread?

With omicron we should let it take it's course and scape the mandates.

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Per capita the new cases, hospitalizations and ICU admissions are many times higher among the unvaccinated than those who've had the shots. The disparity is even more pronounced asvthe unvaccinated are limited in their public activities. The chart below shows the difference.
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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Per capita the new cases, hospitalizations and ICU admissions are many times higher among the unvaccinated than those who've had the shots. The disparity is even more pronounced asvthe unvaccinated are limited in their public activities. The chart below shows the difference.
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What is the average age ?

Are kids filling the ICU no they are not .
Are the kids the majority of the unvaccinated? Yes they are.

So what does it mean to be unvaccinated?

Seems like when everyone was unvaccinated and the average age was high 50s to 60s.

How many unvaccinated fit that category?

So what does unvaccinated have to do with anything. The majority of the unvaccinated have the littlest threat of even being hospitalized. Yet alone take up the ICU.

I've asked you this question numerous times you never responded back .

How many people over 50 are unvaccinated that's in the hospital?



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Originally Posted by fishfood

What is the average age ?

Are kids filling the ICU no they are not .
Are the kids the majority of the unvaccinated? Yes they are.

So what does it mean to be unvaccinated?

Seems like when everyone was unvaccinated and the average age was high 50s to 60s.

How many unvaccinated fit that category?

So what does unvaccinated have to do with anything. The majority of the unvaccinated have the littlest threat of even being hospitalized. Yet alone take up the ICU.

I've asked you this question numerous times you never responded back .

How many people over 50 are unvaccinated that's in the hospital?

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If the age of ICU occupants interests you perhaps you might do your own research.

The fact remains that despite the restrictions upon them the unvaccinated are per capita becoming infected more often, being hospitalized and admitted to ICUs at a far greater rate than the vaccinated.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

If the age of ICU occupants interests you perhaps you might do your own research.

The fact remains that despite the restrictions upon them the unvaccinated are per capita becoming infected more often, being hospitalized and admitted to ICUs at a far greater rate than the vaccinated.

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But you miss the point there can be lots of unvaccinated that have little risk of being hospitalized. Infact almost 20 percent of Canadians. Little risk of severe outcomes and hospitalizations. That is our adolescent population
So almost 20 percent of the population can be totally unvaccinated with with very little stress on the health care. . Reports are also coming out that say Zero of this part of the population healthy children died of covid. Zero so again blame it on the unvaccinated so they can take part of a society experiment.

I know the average age they leaked it out a while back it was still 60 blaming it on the unvaccinated in one hospital.

Age is big factor with this virus .

Why are we going to vaccinate the kids with an emergency use only vaccine when they don't even know if it can stop the spread . That's why kids were getting them
Not for the safety of them

Triple jabbed is 10 percent in the UK cases already.

Stop pushing this experiment .

Or at least get your government friends to tell the truth.



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So,I just watched a "report" on CTVnewsnet which stated that the medical reports from South Africa that the Omicron variant is appearing to be far less dangerous than Delta,but,the contagion rate is much higher comparable to the common cold. I suppose that's good news. Another report from BBCWorld said that the efficacy rate of Pfizer was less than 20%,but,for people who had both Astrazeneca and Moderna as a first course had an efficacy right of 83% and likely won't need a booster.

For a two shot full vaccination now at 22.5% effectiveness in under a year, sure questions Phyzer's science and credibility...

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Moot point, as many of the ‘passports’ are photoshopped and many establishments don’t even check them, so it’s not like the unvaccinated are doing zero things while the vaccinated are doing 100% of things.

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Sure there are anti-vaxx criminals forging documents although that is hardly an argument against having the restrictions and with the shift to QR codes only it will be much tougher for them. I've been in many establishments and attended various sporting events since the mandate was put in place and they've all checked both the QR code and my ID. Any place that isn't is run by morons who are putting their livelihoods in serious jeopardy.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

I don't think the establishments are putting themselves in jeopardy as none of the previous fines have held up. More businesses should not be afraid to take a stand against this completely unscientific overreach & tyranny. Many businesses are using creative and legal ways to get around the restrictions, and keep bylaw at bay.

And their livelihoods have already been put in much worse jeopardy by multiple lockdowns, which were proven to not have any positive affect at all.

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I've always been puzzled by the science behind covid not spreading in the large chain stores, yet being a threat to life in small stores, shops and restaurants.

Ontario needs to address that mild omicron is a myth.

It also mentioned age is a key factor .



https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/on...says-1.5705025

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Ontario needs to address that mild omicron is a myth.

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I think that Health Canada is seeing what the rest of the world is going to do, treat this virus like a seasonal cold/flu...with voluntary vaccinations during peak periods (fall/winter) . That will mean they will lose their grip on all these mandated restrictions and lose the power that the Health Emergency Measure act provided them.

The Omicron will be the end of the 'emergency' status....it's not generating a safety concern to the public or overwhelming of hospitals in countries where it has spread farther and there is now real data, it's no longer anecdotal.