Wow, this has been an eye opener! When all was said and done our club raised $26,000 for the NWTF in this one banquet alone. That's a lot of local conservation dollars not going toward local conservation. Now I'm ticked!
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Wow, this has been an eye opener! When all was said and done our club raised $26,000 for the NWTF in this one banquet alone. That's a lot of local conservation dollars not going toward local conservation. Now I'm ticked!
This is a big reason why I support and participate in the local Delta Chapter. I would also assume it provides a good incentive for members to raise more money... it's really a win-win situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by reedsducks
DU is great too... but... the local/individual chapter simply hands over there cheque every year. Not saying that don't do good work, but It's nice when the local guys have the ability to do some on-the-ground work.
I couldn't agree more with you Ontgobbler. I tried to stay middle of the road with my last post but I'm not a big fan of them either. I too was a founding member of a chapter and on the committee for six years. I worked my butt off as did the other guys and we got nothing for it. In the six years I was on the committee our chapter alone raised well over $100 000 and we got practically nothing for it. That is only one chapter,I think we have at least thirty in the province. It is very safe to say that millions have been sent to Edgefield South Carolina from Ontario for little return on the dollar. I haven't been to one of their banquets in years now. I do still support Delta though. If that money raised in Ontario would have been spent in Ontario it would have made a huge difference to wildlife here in Ontario. I don't agree with my donation money being spent on giant castles for the big wigs to hang out in and try to impress the public with.I think the money could be much better spent elsewhere . I'm surprised it took this long for this thread to light up!
Goose smasher
In the USA they have the drive and some proper encouragement from above and make the General Public aware of the sport and show the safety encouraged towards others. Money funding gets used there.
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wonder why the huron?perth chapter is gone?they have raised over 500,000 dollars over the years and received an award and then were told they had made a big enough profit and that the NWTF would take over and show them how to run their chapter. this is after 15 years. those guys worked their butts off and then get slapped in the face. i gave up my membership after this. they do not deserve our hard earned dollars.
Wow... I'm really at a loss for words here... and any of you who have read my child-like arguments, know that me being at a loss for words just doesn't happen...
The way I see it is there are 3 types of hunting organizations. Those who fight on the political level, those who fight on the field level, and those who fight for our dollars. I'm a big fan of the OFAH, DU, and Delta. I'm a member of the OFAH, and just haven't gotten around to becoming a member of DU or Delta yet. I know, lame excuse, but I just keep forgetting. I don't hunt waterfowl so its not on my mind much. But even though I don't hunt waterfowl doesn't mean that I don't recognize the importance of these organizations or value their efforts. These three don't have to fight for our dollars because their work is evident to us.
I always wondered why DU and Delta managed to do work in the field, and other organizations didn't... This is such a shame. Shame is the understatement of the year. I've said before that hunters are their own worst enemies, and this kinda shows that in the fact that we're willing to take advantage of each other like this. As said before by others, this isn't directed at the local guys who worked hard, but at the upper management types.
What a shame. But good for TPM, and his crew for the honest effort. Maybe the next banquet you hold could be for local work and programs. It's evident that you guys can get the job done.
Cheers,
TNA
There is no support for Canada anymore and I don't think there ever was much, other than using us to generate money for the states. NWTF has pulled out of Canada. I received a letter from them early in the fall stating that due to some government issues it wasn't financially sound to proceed with organizing in Canada. Basically it said that they weren't getting a free ride tax wise from the government anymore so they were bailing because they weren't going to make enough profits. This club disgusts me and I made that known to them when I wrote back to them. They gave me a cookie cutter response that dodged the issue. I thought I was doing my part by joining the group to help a game animal that I love but I definitely will not be renewing my membership next year.
I hate to tar them all with the same brush,but,evidence is evidence. Any time a U.S. organization shows up,it's always about the M-O-N-E-Y. It matters NOT which one it is,QDMA,NWTF,all of them. Next time you feel like supporting one of these outfits,simply follow the money. It never fails. Somewhere,someone has dreamed up a scheme to suck money out of unsuspecting people because we tend to take them at face value. That's a big mistake. NWTF lost their "charitable status" because they failed to ensure adequate funding actually stayed in Canada. That,people,is tax fraud,pure and simple. I don't believe in coincidences. The proof is the fact they chose to get the he** out of Dodge,instead of simply re-arranging their finances and complying with the Tax Act. Good riddance and they can take the rest of them with them,too.
When the NWTF first started in my part of Southern Ontario about 16yrs back we had some slick talker come in pumped everyone up. (I'm sure I don't have to give his name K) We had the first dinner, raised a great deal of money, at the time I was treasurer and my friend was the president, things happened that shouldn't have and we eventually read the writing on the wall and stepped down from the committee. I hold them in very low regard, they are not a fit organization like DU or Delta. On the other hand if a Canadian chapter started up that had a good reputation, I would be more than happy to donate a turkey hunt from my own land for a fund raiser, if the money was to remain here. That is the way that things are supposed to work. I really hope in time that will take place.
I went to a fundraiser last year and became a member out of the Chatham club. i won't be renewing my membership and feel too much money going to the U.S.A side plus turkeys are doing well enough. I would sooner see my money go towards pheasant reintroduction or Northern Bobwhite Quail. A Canadian club needs to be formed not associated with any U.S.A organization keeping the money in Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by TPM