Best odds for a tag

We never use the calf tags we get. We don't want to shoot the little ones, rather see them grow up and hope to shoot them then.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

We never use the calf tags we get. We don't want to shoot the little ones, rather see them grow up and hope to shoot them then.

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Maybe you should start hunting the little ones as your odds of ever getting an adult tag in 47 are slim to none. To answer your original question, it won't make any difference to your group how you apply in the draw.

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Originally Posted by swampdonk

Maybe you should start hunting the little ones as your odds of ever getting an adult tag in 47 are slim to none. To answer your original question, it won't make any difference to your group how you apply in the draw.

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I agree with swampdonk. Hunting little ones isn't a bad thing if you don't have an adult tag (of course providing you use common sense). Just remember wolves don't worry about herd numbers and they will go after the little ones.

Also the calf will eat as much as a cow over winter but won't give yo another calf or two in spring. The cow likely will give you a calf and many times two. So sparing a calf doesn't always help the herd growth. If you tag a calf you are sparing an adult calf bearing cow.

You're missing out on the best meat by not taking them as well. I'd rather not let the wolves have it.

Well mostly we all only have the time to take one week off work so we take a week for deer as we all get doe tags so its better for us to just go get some deer but if we had a bull tag we would take that week off for once and i'd just bow hunt deer on weekends and such.

The best way to get a bull tag is to organize a trip to NW Ontario with your group. Assuming you are all in pool 1, 5 guys should get you into the guaranteed group size for WMU 5 or 8.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Also the calf will eat as much as a cow over winter but won't give yo another calf or two in spring. The cow likely will give you a calf and many times two. So sparing a calf doesn't always help the herd growth. If you tag a calf you are sparing an adult calf bearing cow.

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My thoughts are that you shoot neither for a few years.

If you have 1 bull in the area then all the cows will be bread, if you have no calves to grow up to become adult calves then how can they be bread?

As to the OP, if you want to get an adult tag in Ontario you have to be in a big group or solo be so lucky you probably have a better shot at the lottery. WMU 47 is still Southern Ontario, very few tags there.

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Originally Posted by jlmorgan

Apply as a group, if there is not enough pool 1 applicants to get a tag the applicants are then put in as individuals in the draw, the only advantage is that if any of the applicants draw a tag the remaining applicants are removed from the pool. By doing 5 individual applications you could theoretically draw 5 tags which you probably don't want. The other advantage of the group system is that you can transfer the tag to a designated alternate if for some reason the original tag receiver can't make the hunt.

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Yep. That's the way I'd be doing it.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I hope they pull the calfs tag, make it bulls only and tags for calves or cows or make the whole thing a draw only situation, we need to bring moose numbers back up.

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I totally agree. Make the free tag the younger bulls. The calves have a hard enough time surviving their first year. I don't believe 2 1/2 year old bulls add much towards growing the population.