Labradoodle Inventor Full of Regret

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Originally Posted by welsh

To be fair, he didn't really make a mistake. He set out to breed good dogs, dogs that were capable of being seeing-eye dogs. It was a bunch of other people who stepped in and started touting the labradoodle as the perfect hypoallergenic non-shedding dog.

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So anyone that puts two different breeds together (for whatever good reason they may have) isn't making a mistake, in today's day and age?

These designer breeds will never stop.

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Originally Posted by Jakezilla

Oh ok wasn't sure what you were getting at.

I can get one heck of an English Pointer for $500.

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Wow, that's cheap considering the expense to breed these pups.

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

Wow, that's cheap considering the expense to breed these pups.

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No one wants them as they have a reputation of being too much dog for most people. They can be a challenge for some to get right but if you get them right there is no better bird dog out there.

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

So anyone that puts two different breeds together (for whatever good reason they may have) isn't making a mistake, in today's day and age?

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Um, no. That's not what I said. But if you're asserting that there is something inherently unethical about breeding a mixed breed dog, then you're full of it. It is not inherently unethical, and it is not inherently a mistake. My point was that the money-grubbing designer dog craze that followed was not Conron's fault or his intention.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Um, no. That's not what I said. But if you're asserting that there is something inherently unethical about breeding a mixed breed dog, then you're full of it. It is not inherently unethical, and it is not inherently a mistake. My point was that the money-grubbing designer dog craze that followed was not Conron's fault or his intention.

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You said he didn't make a mistake.
I disagree.

I'm sure he wasn't in it for the money, right?

The designer mutt or hyphenated breed fad that is so prevalent now makes me laugh. It seems like many people think that these cross bred mutts are actual breeds with a sound health and behavioral history. Was a time when mutts were given away or flogged for the price of first vaccinations. Now all you have to do is hyphenate the supposed two breeds and "voila" some idiot will pay a $grand for a pup. I had a buddy who was a serious Beagle guy and breeder. He always said if he couldn't unload a litter of pups at the going rate all he had to do was double the price and people would buy them thinking they were better.

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

I'm sure he wasn't in it for the money, right?

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No, actually, he wasn't.

Conron was not breeding designer dogs for big dollars. He worked for the Royal Guide Dog Association of Australia (a charity) and first crossed Labs and poodles to try to create a dog that would be suitable for clients with allergies. He had some success although of course not every pup had the desired characteristics. But he found that clients did not want the dogs as soon as they were told they were "mixed breeds." So he called them labradoodles.

Then people hopped on the bandwagon and people started breeding them for profit. Conron quit breeding dogs 20 years ago.

The mistake wasn't breeding the dogs. The mistake was trying to overcome the stigma attached to "mixed breeds" for guide dog work by calling them a new breed.

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Originally Posted by terrym

He always said if he couldn't unload a litter of pups at the going rate all he had to do was double the price and people would buy them thinking they were better.

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Too true, and not limited to dogs. When the Gibson guitar company started its renaissance the first thing the new management did was double the price.

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Originally Posted by terrym

The designer mutt or hyphenated breed fad that is so prevalent now makes me laugh. It seems like many people think that these cross bred mutts are actual breeds with a sound health and behavioral history. Was a time when mutts were given away or flogged for the price of first vaccinations. Now all you have to do is hyphenate the supposed two breeds and "voila" some idiot will pay a $grand for a pup. I had a buddy who was a serious Beagle guy and breeder. He always said if he couldn't unload a litter of pups at the going rate all he had to do was double the price and people would buy them thinking they were better.

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I have seen that work

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Originally Posted by welsh

No, actually, he wasn't.

Conron was not breeding designer dogs for big dollars. He worked for the Royal Guide Dog Association of Australia (a charity) and first crossed Labs and poodles to try to create a dog that would be suitable for clients with allergies. He had some success although of course not every pup had the desired characteristics. But he found that clients did not want the dogs as soon as they were told they were "mixed breeds." So he called them labradoodles.

Then people hopped on the bandwagon and people started breeding them for profit. Conron quit breeding dogs 20 years ago.

The mistake wasn't breeding the dogs. The mistake was trying to overcome the stigma attached to "mixed breeds" for guide dog work by calling them a new breed.

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Whatever welsh. He didn't make a mistake then. You win...lol