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Awesome question. I was actually going to ask a very similiar question. I know someone who lets a guy who works for an outdoors company( id love to give the company name but will probably get chirped at) who hunts coyote at night under spot lights over a bait pile. The homeowner has like 6 chickens who get ate every year and she thinks its fine. Who would make a call to a co ?????
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Ya.. I would hunt with one.. However.. Any illegal activity on a hunt with me.will end that hunt/trip and, I would never hunt with them again. I believe everyone deserves a chance.
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Well poachers are not necessarily bad shots and often know the game being hunted very well . Just won't put up with it while they are hunting with me .
TD
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We all know of someone that has " poached" at one time or another. Went out duck or goose hunting when they had their possession limit in the freezer or their fish limit from the morning out but they were biting so good they went out again that evening. My problem is the people that hunt or fish and take more than they can possibly consume and it goes to waste. If your out of work and the bills need to be paid and money is tight and there are plenty of ways to feed your family good meals of wild game then there is no question what I would do. So to answer if I would hunt with someone I know that has or is a poacher, I guess it boils down to why they poached?
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Gp4 brought up a good point about the guy shooting under lights. To some it is poaching but to others it is just a way to protect their flock. I know one guy who regularly shoots game using tags that belong to his wife, sons, etc but most of the time he gives the meat to local families who don't have any.
I also heard of a crew who had filled their tags early in the week and then went out at night to jack light. This was a first time activity for them and they got nailed, losing all their gear. Looked good on them.
i also know one old guy who normally uses two lines whenever he can. He still can't catch more than the odd fish, even with both rods......I fish with him just for the comedy factor, even if he is technically a poacher.
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The original post seems odd to me. The question is like asking, "Would you ever deliberately gut-shoot a moose? Would you ever get hammered and drive?"
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Interesting question. Should include "who checks the checker for poaching"
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It appears poaching is not black and white ... recently in the U.S. a man was found with 1600 trout in his possession when his limit was 10 ... now THAT is a poacher ... when I was young there was a local man who used to shoot deer on his farm because "he did not like them there", he let them rot where they dropped (he is now dead, that is fine with me) ... now THAT is a poacher ... in each of these cases it is killing for the sake of killing and there will be significant waste as a result. This is the "amoral poacher"
I guess the question is, "is there such a thing as a 'moral poacher'?" One who has an extra one of these or an extra one of those , where all will be used and not be wasted ... laws in one place and you are a poacher, but cross a border and you are not ... where does the morality lie there (apparently at one time in California, if you set a mouse trap without a trappers license, then you were in violation of the law) ... I guess we all have our own morals and it will be decided on an individual basis who to be friends with, fish with and hunt with.
I think the original post was talking about poaching for the sole purpose of promoting a product ... Money, money, money ... it is what all is becomming based on ... financial gain trumps all in todays world (I could go on forever on the rigging of pro sports for the best ratings and financial gain) and this is no different ... the important people with lots of $$$ will get away with more than us nobody's ... it would be nice if the arrogant celebrity would be treated the same as we would be if caught.
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I fish with a notorious poacher, an older guy who was doing it all his life. He's been charged a number of times, as has his family with hunting/fishing offences but I still fish with him and bird hunt with him in the fall. Its been a chore getting him to do things right but now he bends over backwards to make sure he's legit. As a person he's a class act and will do anything for anybody.
On the other hand I had a friend that I grew up with. For 40 years we were inseparable when it came to hunting and fishing but in the last few years, after I retired he began to push things--extra lines, extra fish, that sort of thing, playing the tag game. I now don't go near him.
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I hunt with a couple poachers. The ones I hunt with are amazingly skilled hunters; I don't let them poach with me and I don't listen to them brag about poaching (because most of them really seem to love talking about it) - but they do have some amazing skills and passion for hunting- I've actually learned some new things from those people.