Legality question ?

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Originally Posted by Gadwall

No small game license AND migratory bird stamp then not legal ... he cannot "hunt".

To be sure, you have better avenues than here to ask ... OPP, MNR, and Canadian Wildlife service ... all of these have 800 numbers and can be found by google ... best not to trust me or anyone else on here, best to ask the authorities.

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Gadwall that is the best internet advice I have read in a long time

Actually the answer to the question is in the regs. In Ontario you need a small game license and the migratory stamp.

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Originally Posted by mooner

Gadwall that is the best internet advice I have read in a long time

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Actually the answer to the question is in the regs. In Ontario you need a small game license and the migratory stamp.

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Evidently some guys would rather ask, than read.

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Originally Posted by Stevedigs04

OOO Big point I forgot to add.

Not only can he not legally shoot and kill a duck but without a license he can't LEGALLY help in the hunt in ANY WAY!

This is important because he can come with you and watch / videotape like Dutch suggested, but he absolutely can't call any duck, set decoys, retrieve ducks for you, or assist with any part of you directly killing a duck as the MNR describes hunting as the whole act not just pulling the trigger.

-Steve

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That's true and does apply to all kind of hunting; e.g. deer or small game drives.
I personally think that this part of the regs is going too far. I would rather think something like the shooting scenario (in hands reach/full supervision/full responsibility of the licence holder) would be more appropriate for somebody "assisting" in the hunt (who has no means to actually bag anything themself).

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

That's true and does apply to all kind of hunting; e.g. deer or small game drives.
I personally think that this part of the regs is going too far. I would rather think something like the shooting scenario (in hands reach/full supervision/full responsibility of the licence holder) would be more appropriate for somebody "assisting" in the hunt (who has no means to actually bag anything themself).

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That's the premise behind the apprenticeship component.

Sure he can in your boat, towed with your truck, using your gun. I will look for these items at the next auction. Cause you will loose them all if you do!

MNR definition of hunting.

HUNTING:
Includes lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing,
chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured,
captured or harassed. You need a hunting licence to do any of these things,
except where the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997, states otherwise.

You don't need to have a gun to be consider hunting. Just that fact that he is with someone who has a gun than he is hunting. My Conservation Officer friend (retired now) has charge people walking through the bush pushing deer for his friend, even though he doesn't have a gun and hunting license. The guy went to court to fight it but he lost the case. Cost him the fine, court fees and a day off from work.

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Originally Posted by lanarkhunter

Just that fact that he is with someone who has a gun than he is hunting.

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This is untrue, they have to be assisting with the pursuit or harvesting of game in some way.

You are fully legal if you are "with someone who has a gun" if your intent is anything besides hunting i.e video taping, taking photos ect.

-Steve

There is a lot of good information in this thread, but the OP needs to clarify one detail. Does your neighbour posses an H1 hunting license?

If yes, then he needs a small game license and a migratory bird permit to hunt. And if he does not have a PAL, then you can only have one gun between you.

If no, then he is out of luck on the hunting part.

He could still come with you and take pictures, but he can't actively participate in the hunt.

Keep in mind a person who has an H2 license can not hunt with a firearm; even though they have a hunting license.

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Originally Posted by Stevedigs04

This is untrue, they have to be assisting with the pursuit or harvesting of game in some way.

You are fully legal if you are "with someone who has a gun" if your intent is anything besides hunting i.e video taping, taking photos ect.

-Steve

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As my Conservation Officer friend explain to me, he will issue a ticket and that person can go to court and explain it to the judge. My information comes from the MNR, not my opinion.