smaller sized gun dog

"I prefer pointers ..." quote OP

Don't forget runts. Often a litter has a runt . One of my setters is a runt, ( 30 pounds), and is a terrific bird dog.


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Originally Posted by terrym

Haven't seen a close working Brittany yet. They will close in in timbered cover but if it opens up look out. If you stick with a female 30 lbs is quite possible.

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Question if they work close in timber why would it matter in the open? If they are running large they aren't being handled well.

For a small munsterlander you need to consult with vom Dufenshmirtz here.

sharon, 35lbs for a setter? that would be awesome. how are setters with shedding and grooming?-yes im lazy

For a setter you really would be looking at Lwelyn (think I spelt that right) lines. Most hunting dogs will shed a lot other wise their coat will be to thin to give them much protection.

They shed some - not as bad as a white terrier.:) Grooming is simple .. cut toe nails , trim fur off the bottom of the feet in winter to minimize ice balls collecting ... that's about all I do. Spencer at Creek Haven Kennels has bred from my bithc on down the line and may have some runts or smaller pups in the future. It's always a possibility.

Runt does not equal less desire / go. No body wanted to buy my runt from the litter so I kept her. She was derby dog of the year in ON ( AF) at 1/1/2 years . :)

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

For a small munsterlander you need to consult with vom Dufenshmirtz here.

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Oh my ;)

female SMs run 40-45 lbs, most shed quite a bit twice a year, but so does Brittany. If you want to know more about SM - come over, looks like we're neighbours. Any hunting dog can run across a street chasing squirrels.

"Haven't seen a close working Brittany yet. They will close in in timbered cover but if it opens up look out. If you stick with a female 30 lbs is quite possible. " quote Terry
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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Question if they work close in timber why would it matter in the open? If they are running large they aren't being handled well.

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Hmmm Not getting into that as it would hijack the OP's post. :)

i may have to take you up on that offer as i would like to see SMs in person more than a few minutes.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Question if they work close in timber why would it matter in the open? If they are running large they aren't being handled well.

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Most pointing breeds are large running dogs. Mine will work 200 -300 yds out if the cover allows it. He will also hold point for however long it takes me to close in. He also closes right in when grouse and woodcock hunting as well bred dogs do. Letting a pointing breed work at those long ranges when needed is in fact handling them well, its what they are bred to do. The point im making is the OP specifically mentioned he is looking for a dog to stick close while walking him. I wouldnt recommend a Brittany for that. At least not one with hunting breeding.