Growling Lab

Thanks for the advise. Funny she is not food aggresive at all. All of us can put our hands in her dish & she has no issues with that. She sit's and waits for the OK from all of us before eating. Same with bones & toys.

This is strictly possesion of non-allowed items that causes the warning growl.

This Sunday we are all going back to the trainers for some tips (K921st century in Amherstburg Ont).
We trained her with the prong collar & the trainer has said via e-mail to leave it on with a 6 foot leash when I am not home so that they can reach for the leash & correct her. This is similar to the e-collar in a sense. So far I have not needed an e-collar for training but I am not ruling it out as a tool for training.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by impact

The food suggestion worked in our household. The dog wanted to dominate the two teens but once they started serving the dish, making him sit and stay, shaking a paw, etc. before he was allowed to touch his food resolved the situation. He soon realized he better behave with them or else it was going to be an empty and "growling" stomach.....lol

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Excellent. I do this too and never a problem with any of my dogs.. I do the sit and stay, put food down, I can walk around the house a few times if I want and she won't touch her food until she hears "OK". My girl is 7 months old now and she's been doing this since before she was 3 months old.

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Thanks for the advise. Funny she is not food aggresive at all. All of us can put our hands in her dish & she has no issues with that. She sit's and waits for the OK from all of us before eating. Same with bones & toys.

This is strictly possesion of non-allowed items that causes the warning growl.

This Sunday we are all going back to the trainers for some tips (K921st century in Amherstburg Ont).
We trained her with the prong collar & the trainer has said via e-mail to leave it on with a 6 foot leash when I am not home so that they can reach for the leash & correct her. This is similar to the e-collar in a sense. So far I have not needed an e-collar for training but I am not ruling it out as a tool for training.

Jeff

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An e-collar is nothing but a long leash... wouldn't be my priority right now. You said that the dog will behave around food flawlessly and obey to commands from all family members, but not around high priced items - high priced to your family. So really, the dog could not care less about these items, she only cares about the attention she gets when taking them away. You also said you exercise her an hour a day. Physically excercise is important, but only one part of the game. Maybe the dog needs a bit more mental/emotional excercise, which she seems to have when you are around, but no excitement for her when you are gone.
Hard to say, jsut a thought.

"This Sunday we are ALL going back to the trainers for some tips (K921st century in Amherstburg Ont)." quote

What a great idea!
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As Weiner-Reiche said better than me. See his post.
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Same at my house but not a growling problem . My husband is not respected by the dog because he let's anything go, calls him and doesn't follow through and doesn't praise for good behaviour. That's him; that's the way it is.

Not that uncommon. Have the girls feed the dog. They make her sit, wait for a minute and then put the food down.

If the dog is only growling when it has an item and the girls want it , I'd say it is just playing.... one year old. jmo

PS I wouldn't use an e collar for that problem , but jmo

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

Excellent. I do this too and never a problem with any of my dogs.. I do the sit and stay, put food down, I can walk around the house a few times if I want and she won't touch her food until she hears "OK". My girl is 7 months old now and she's been doing this since before she was 3 months old.

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"I do this", "I do the sit and stay", "I can walk around the house".....

The OP doesn't have a problem with him, it's his family.

You disagree with others advice, and then are insulting and call it scary? Nice. Dogs, contrary to your opinion on other posts are pack animals, they need to fit into a hierarchy. Some breeds do very well with positive reinforcement, some do not. Ever trained a Chesapeke Bay Retriever?

Positive reinforcement is always the best training tool, however in the event that a dog begins to test out where is sits on the ladder, often with behavioral issues being attached there needs to be a definite behavior correction, you cannot simply positively reinforce whenever the dog does what mom, or daughter commands. This doesn't have to be an e-collar ( In fact I've trained some harder breeds, using one sparingly, but don't own one anymore). It can often be a more minor behavioral correction.

Originally Posted by impact http://www.oodmag.com/community/imag...post-right.png The food suggestion worked in our household. The dog wanted to dominate the two teens but once they started serving the dish, making him sit and stay, shaking a paw, etc. before he was allowed to touch his food resolved the situation. He soon realized he better behave with them or else it was going to be an empty and "growling" stomach.....lol

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Excellent. I do this too and never a problem with any of my dogs.. I do the sit and stay, put food down, I can walk around the house a few times if I want and she won't touch her food until she hears "OK". My girl is 7 months old now and she's been doing this since before she was 3 months old.

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Good on you. Well done.

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"making my wife actually physically push the dog onto the ground and hold her neck actually breaks it pretty darn quick" .........

If this works for you that is great , but to suggest it for an untrained dog family( kids and wife) - which is the problem - not the owner- is not a good idea - just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

"I do this", "I do the sit and stay", "I can walk around the house".....

The OP doesn't have a problem with him, it's his family.

You disagree with others advice, and then are insulting and call it scary? Nice. Dogs, contrary to your opinion on other posts are pack animals, they need to fit into a hierarchy. Some breeds do very well with positive reinforcement, some do not. Ever trained a Chesapeke Bay Retriever?

Positive reinforcement is always the best training tool, however in the event that a dog begins to test out where is sits on the ladder, often with behavioral issues being attached there needs to be a definite behavior correction, you cannot simply positively reinforce whenever the dog does what mom, or daughter commands. This doesn't have to be an e-collar ( In fact I've trained some harder breeds, using one sparingly, but don't own one anymore). It can often be a more minor behavioral correction.

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well said

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

"I do this", "I do the sit and stay", "I can walk around the house".....

The OP doesn't have a problem with him, it's his family.

You disagree with others advice, and then are insulting and call it scary? Nice. Dogs, contrary to your opinion on other posts are pack animals, they need to fit into a hierarchy. Some breeds do very well with positive reinforcement, some do not. Ever trained a Chesapeke Bay Retriever?

Positive reinforcement is always the best training tool, however in the event that a dog begins to test out where is sits on the ladder, often with behavioral issues being attached there needs to be a definite behavior correction, you cannot simply positively reinforce whenever the dog does what mom, or daughter commands. This doesn't have to be an e-collar ( In fact I've trained some harder breeds, using one sparingly, but don't own one anymore). It can often be a more minor behavioral correction.

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I can do it and anyone in my family can too. Yes, I meant to add that everyone in the family should be doing it this way (everyone in the family should practice this consistently) but others have already touched on that. Great advice and no need to zap the dog or pin it down into submission for something that can be handled in a much less traumatic/stressful way for you and the dog, There are lot of old school people here that use methods that have been outdated for years.
If I insulted you by calling it scary, then I apologize.

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

I can do it and anyone in my family can too. Yes, I meant to add that everyone in the family should be doing it this way (everyone in the family should practice this consistently) but others have already touched on that. Great advice and no need to zap the dog or pin it down into submission for something that can be handled in a much less traumatic/stressful way for you and the dog, There are lot of old school people here that use methods that have been outdated for years.
If I insulted you by calling it scary, then I apologize.

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That is such a good point. I posted about my JRT pup learning to climb on the chair then onto the kitchen table, to see what might have been left behind. I got some thoughtful advice.

What did I do? I turn the chair to the wall so he can't climb on it. If this was an older dog and still doing that , I would take more serious measures , but..........

Excellent point.

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That is such a good point. I posted about my JRT pup learning to climb on the chair then onto the kitchen table, to see what might have been left behind. I got some thoughtful advice.

What did I do? I turn the chair to the wall so he can't climb on it. If this was an older dog and still doing that , I would take more serious measures , but..........

Excellent point.

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Hi Sharon. Macy started her second round of advanced puppy class last night (she did fantastic in basic puppy class but she already knew everything since I had her for a couple of months before her class started..lol) Actually going to these classes and learning new things is interesting. When these positive methods (some new ones to me) are explained they really make a lot of sense and open your eyes to how wrong a lot of these old methods are/were.