Moose population declining.

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Originally Posted by Doug

Back to the ticks, with the Global Warming that we are experiencing we can expect to see more of this type of thing in the future as conditions become favorable for these insects to move northward.

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good paper on the potential effects of climate change and predators on the moose populations.

http://files.ontario.ca/environment-...rod_100584.pdf

For those that didnt read the study I posted...in regards to unregulated Hunting of Moose...

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Regulated and unregulated hunting


Hunting was modelled as a density-independent rate of mortality of 11%. In Ontario regulated hunting accounts for about 9% of annual moose mortality and unregulated hunting for about 2% more, for a combined death rate of about 11%. Although the relative proportion of regulated versus non-regulated hunting will vary spatially across the province, the combined death rate was assumed constant. Hunting modifies the overall density of moose, which is important for determining recruitment and predation rates

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Originally Posted by toddc

the natives take more then we all care to admit,they put huge dents in the moose pop.. we can bury our head in the sand if you wish but truth be told its a major problem

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You really are misinformed.....

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Originally Posted by MikePal

For those that didnt read the study I posted...in regards to unregulated Hunting of Moose...

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Did they elaborate on what the "unregulated" hunting was? Native harvest? Poaching? I don't know how they can put a figure on these two items because that data is not recorded. The other thing is that 2% province-wide is not going to be evenly distributed. It's going to be far higher in areas like 48 and 55b and in corner of the park adjacent to those areas - I'm betting that native harvest of adult moose in that area is many, many times greater than the regulated hunter harvest.

didnt mean to rip off the thread, i apologise

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Originally Posted by bdog

You really are misinformed.....

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I have a native cousin that has told me stories what his friends do and it is unreal, slaughtering them and deer to sell and make money, same with walleye and lakers.
Fricken joke.
If they shot em on foot and with recurve bows have at it, not round em up in the snow on sleds and have at them with rifles, or shoot outta truck windows

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Originally Posted by bdog

Do you care to explain this remark.....

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In WMU 47, we got a bull tag this year, but the natives showed up and hunted around our camp the weeks before the season opened. According to the MNR, they took 13 bulls in the small area around our camp. Pretty sure that's the reason why we didn't see a bull when we were hunting....we also didnt see a cow or a calf the whole week. The MNR guy wasnt sure how many calves/cows the natives took however.

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Originally Posted by bdog

You really are misinformed.....

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good grief man i have native family i know first hand what happens

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moose in Alberta , dying from "Tick Infestations" it was absolutely amazing to see the number of ticks on these moose.
They mentioned that this problem occurs in the southern range of the moose .
Is it possible that this is occurring in Ontario and that is why we are seeing a drastic decline in our moose population?

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Pls. see above post and hi lited area.

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Originally Posted by Doug

Disappointing that a thread about the damage caused by ticks in our moose population became a thread complaining about natives. The program on TVO was based on scientific research, could I ask what research your responses are based on? If you have none based on science then I suggest that your responses are based on bigotry and could very well be considered as promoting hatred against a people.
I am not a friend of the native, IMO I believe they are getting too much handed to them and our governments need to stand up to them more then they have; but unfortunately court rulings in BC have set a precedent in which natives will get even more if things go to court.
Back to the ticks, with the Global Warming that we are experiencing we can expect to see more of this type of thing in the future as conditions become favorable for these insects to move northward.

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maybe the ticks could infest some lawyers and judges,lol