Purina law suit

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Originally Posted by terrym

http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...s-action-says/

Interestingly my buddy was feeding this to his dog until this weekend. I was up there ice fishing and he was saying his dog was passing nothing but soft stools and seemed inflamed. I told him to try another food and since her guts were already in knots he switched cold turkey. In two days she was pooping normally, loves her new food and has more energy than ever. She is now on a grain free food and the rest of the Beneful is going to be bear bait. Not sure why but Purina doesn't seem to list it's guaranteed analysis on it's website? Maybe it's a marketing thing....:ninja:

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Terrym if you have more info on this please keep us informed. I am going to call a friend of mine that has a feed and seed store just outside of Chatham to get more info and post. Sometimes it can be certain bags on a particular days that may have been tainted . I remember when Diamond Dog food had a recall a few years back because of dogs getting sick. Only laboratory testing will prove if food had been tainted.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Do you work for Purina ?

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Absolutely not....never have....have you worked for them?

A note of caution though might be in order though. You read such a weak report with no causal data what so ever, yet some are quick to jump on the bandwagon. My heavens those dogs could have died from a million other things rather than dog food???? Where they in a controlled environment, did they have access to rodenticides, how about glycol. What a lame statement from the Vet.

First of all it's a pathologists who determines cause of death and if it was a poison 90% of the time it's mineralization of the kidneys not the liver that shows clean.

The other note of caution requires the understanding of slander vs libel. While it's absolutely fine to express an opinion, putting statements in a published forum can put you at risk which is why I said ...."you got proof"

I have told you what a certain group(professional dog trainers) do, no one is expected or required to do as they do. These are a group of the most skilled people we have involved in competition where slight differences mean you go home or stay in the competition. I hope some people can see that there might be a wee bit of difference in their knowledge and skills since that is their livelihood.

YD, awhile back you sang the praises of a total raw diet, while I don't disagree with that diet if you are skilled to put it together, I see you're now totally convinced that quality kibble is the way to go. Is this the 'new' direction or will you be flipping back? An epiphany?

I actually welcome some valid discussion about dog foods, factual data welcome.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Loyall dog food would also be in the Beneful category in my opinion with almost the same ingredient breakdown.

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Guess its just a matter of time till my dogs go belly up then. Both are on that awful Loyall stuff

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

Absolutely not....never have....have you worked for them?

A note of caution though might be in order though. You read such a weak report with no causal data what so ever, yet some are quick to jump on the bandwagon. My heavens those dogs could have died from a million other things rather than dog food???? Where they in a controlled environment, did they have access to rodenticides, how about glycol. What a lame statement from the Vet.

First of all it's a pathologists who determines cause of death and if it was a poison 90% of the time it's mineralization of the kidneys not the liver that shows clean.

The other note of caution requires the understanding of slander vs libel. While it's absolutely fine to express an opinion, putting statements in a published forum can put you at risk which is why I said ...."you got proof"

I have told you what a certain group(professional dog trainers) do, no one is expected or required to do as they do. These are a group of the most skilled people we have involved in competition where slight differences mean you go home or stay in the competition. I hope some people can see that there might be a wee bit of difference in their knowledge and skills since that is their livelihood.

YD, awhile back you sang the praises of a total raw diet, while I don't disagree with that diet if you are skilled to put it together, I see you're now totally convinced that quality kibble is the way to go. Is this the 'new' direction or will you be flipping back? An epiphany?

I actually welcome some valid discussion about dog foods, factual data welcome.

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I had a whole slew of things to say but have decided not to because you are very predictable. Why because it's just not worth it and I have enough people on this forum supporting my opinions and views and appreciate all the PM's i get. I do not need to be acknowledged by you or your little parrot chiming every time you make a statement. You really need to take your own advice.

Terry thanks for the info appreciate it very much. I have an old friend out of Winchester Ontario that is a Purina distributor. He is strait up kind of guy and if he has any information he would pass it my way(DATA).

There's a saying about opinions... they're like something else that everyone has. Asking for factual data is the intelligent thing to do for anyone concerned about their dog's health in relation to their feed. What is "predictable" is spouting out opinions as if gospel and then not offering up any data to back them up.

Yellow dog you are so predictable...why don't you just take a break.

I do take my own advice, certainly wouldn't want to take yours.

How condenscending of you with the parrot comment.....grow up and use some manners before I really start to rip into you for your ignorance.

I see all these people coming to your defence.........This isn't the first time you've said it.....interesting

I didn't think a discussion had to be acknowledging....is that what you need?

Very sad indeed but these were comments I had made to you some time ago and now your using them on me. It's obvious it stuck with you but it was meant for YOU. Tell me something what do you hope to get out of all this ? Be honest with me .Send me a PM if you feel more comfortable.

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

Well I guess from all this expertise I should be switching away from Purina................ Did folks really read whose behind this lawsuit....my heavens!

Everyone is welcome to feed their choice.

Almost all the Professional Trainers I know feed Purina Performance......imagine how well they could do if they switched, I'm going to tell them I learned this on the OODF.

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I assume you are being sarcastic? :) I hope so. I've fed Purina since 1958 and never had a problem. I won't be changing. I'll be interested in hearing about the law suit. Media misinformation for $$$$$$$$$$ purposes is rampant in dog food , as dog food is BIG BUSINESS.

I'll refrain from over reacting until the court procedure is completed:

"Purina denies the allegations, calling Beneful “100 per cent safe to feed” and the “lawsuit is without merit.” The company said it will “vigorously defend ourselves through the legal process.” quote


YD:

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PS I guess I should start to count my PMs ? :)

Yes Sharon, said tongue in cheek. I won't be changing what I feed and can rationalize why I do. Having said that I welcome any factual data on dog food that may be unacceptable for our canine friends. I thought most people could read through these types of law suits but apparently not...this one included.

All manufacturers produce a variety/levels of food....quality varies within each and everyone. You get what you pay for.

I understand why you have stayed with your choice.