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not a dually just a 1500 chevy ,my mother inlaws sister lives in barrie and her son is with the opp in barrie and he says thy do charge a lot of guys with no safety sticker on the 400hyw in half tons pulling campers ,thus is all new to me ,My inlaws just got there second yearly safety and I did not think thy needed one ,but thy seem to think thy do ,,I think it is just a cash grab ,safety a new truck every year ,just to go camping and for folks that are retired fixed income ,thy know how to stick it to the common man ,,Dutch

A half ton (with regular registration/RGW) pulling a camper doesn't require safety stickers, that much I can tell you. That's not to say OPP aren't charging for it, but if they do, I suggest you take it to court.

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Gotta few years to go yet trimmer, but for the first time ever I'm starting to look forward to it! :cool:

Dutch, RV's are exempt from stickers, and always have been. He likely doesn't require one on his 1/2 ton either.



http://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/900611#BK7

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can you comment on my situation

bought a new all aluminum enclosed trailer with tandem axles rated for 3500 lbs each, electric trailer brakes and break away brakes. The trailer came with the yellow sticker on it.

i pull this trailer with a half ton pick up truck (never used for comercial purposes)
the curb weight of the trailer is 1900 lbs
i only use the trail to haul atv's and hunting gear , so less than 2000 lbs of cargo

I am far bellow the 10000 lbs combined limit

do I need to have the trailer safety inspection every year, or was this done as part of importing from the USA and registering in Ontario? Or is it based on the fact that I have the ability to go over the 10000 lbs combined gross limit and would now need to yellow sticker the pick up truck as well?

i realize that it is required to be compliant, the electric brakes have to be in good working order at all times

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can you comment on my situation

bought a new all aluminum enclosed trailer with tandem axles rated for 3500 lbs each, electric trailer brakes and break away brakes. The trailer came with the yellow sticker on it.

i pull this trailer with a half ton pick up truck (never used for comercial purposes)
the curb weight of the trailer is 1900 lbs
i only use the trail to haul atv's and hunting gear , so less than 2000 lbs of cargo

I am far bellow the 10000 lbs combined limit

do I need to have the trailer safety inspection every year, or was this done as part of importing from the USA and registering in Ontario? Or is it based on the fact that I have the ability to go over the 10000 lbs combined gross limit and would now need to yellow sticker the pick up truck as well?

i realize that it is required to be compliant, the electric brakes have to be in good working order at all times

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From my experience with tandems I'm going to say yes, you do require them (likely why it already has sticker). The easiest way to confirm this is by checking the manufacturers sticker on the trailer. If the MGVWR is over 4500 kg's (haven't seen a tandem that's under 4500) then you require stickers for both truck and trailer. If it's undrr 4500 you still need to add the MGVWR of your half ton, and that will almost definitely put it over 4500. Kinda sucks doesn't it?

It's based on the ability.

I believe that if one or the other, truck or trailer has the yellow safety sticker then both need it. I also believe that the exception is for campers only not enclosed cargo trailers or utility trailers

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I believe that if one or the other, truck or trailer has the yellow safety sticker then both need it. I also believe that the exception is for campers only not enclosed cargo trailers or utility trailers

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In a nutshell, yes. That's about the easiest way to say it.

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From my experience with tandems I'm going to say yes, you do require them (likely why it already has sticker). The easiest way to confirm this is by checking the manufacturers sticker on the trailer. If the MGVWR is over 4500 kg's (haven't seen a tandem that's under 4500) then you require stickers for both truck and trailer. If it's undrr 4500 you still need to add the MGVWR of your half ton, and that will almost definitely put it over 4500. Kinda sucks doesn't it?

It's based on the ability.

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Thanks Rick,

I was hoping that it would fall under recreational use rules due to the ATV's.

not a huge issue as I keep my vehicles in good repair. The extra 60 bucks for each inspection is far cheaper than the fines and insurance increases due to the fines.

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Thanks Rick,

I was hoping that it would fall under recreational use rules due to the ATV's.

not a huge issue as I keep my vehicles in good repair. The extra 60 bucks for each inspection is far cheaper than the fines and insurance increases due to the fines.

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Glad I could help.

No, ATVs, race cars, etc, do fall under a personal use pickup exemption, but it has nothing to do with safeties (yellow stickers). There are no exemptions for safeties, unless you're talking about RV's, in transit permits, or dealer plates.

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I believe that if one or the other, truck or trailer has the yellow safety sticker then both need it. I also believe that the exception is for campers only not enclosed cargo trailers or utility trailers

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I am also building in 2 fold down sleeping platforms , insulated the trailer , installed interior lighting.

so it is more of a toy hauler / camper that just doesn't look like a camper on the outside.

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I am also building in 2 fold down sleeping platforms , insulated the trailer , installed interior lighting.

so it is more of a toy hauler / camper that just doesn't look like a camper on the outside.

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It's an officer discretion call really, but an enclosed utility trailer likely won't be considered what is commonly known as an RV. Toy haulers can be a discretionary call as well.

2.2 (1) Sections 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 8 and 10 do not apply in respect of the following classes of vehicles:
1. A motor vehicle commonly known as a recreational vehicle or as a motor home, other than a motor vehicle,
i. carrying commercial cargo or tools or equipment of a type normally used for commercial purposes, or
ii. carrying animals or non-commercial tools, equipment or vehicles that occupy one-half or more of its floor space.
2. A house trailer, other than a house trailer,
i. owned or leased by an employer to house the employer’s employee,
ii. carrying commercial cargo or tools or equipment of a type normally used for commercial purposes, or
iii. carrying animals or non-commercial tools, equipment or vehicles that occupy one-half or more of its floor space. O. Reg. 80/11, s. 2.
(2) In paragraph 2 of subsection (1), “house trailer” includes a cabin trailer, collapsible cabin trailer, tent trailer and camping trailer. O. Reg. 80/11, s. 2.