Bill C-655: Interfering with Hunting, Trapping, Fishing or Sport Shooting

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Do we? Your technically in the town, since I am further out I don't think my little village does. I'll have to check. Could be confusing because my side of the street is actually Ottawa.

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Ottawa does have a noise bylaw and it also imposes the Sunday bylaw of silent hours til noon.

This would work if canada had something similar to ontario's hunter heritage act. Also, the contreventions act would have to be updated to allow provincial officers to lay this charge, otherwise they would have to rely on the police.

Woops. ;)

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

Ottawa does have a noise bylaw and it also imposes the Sunday bylaw of silent hours til noon.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Woops. ;)

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The reader's condensed version of the bylaw wrt Noise

http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/laws-l...its/laws/noise

Only for specific types of noise. There is nothing that says I can't shoot before noon on a Sunday.

Nobody complained for the first 3 years but were quiet now. :)

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

The reader's condensed version of the bylaw wrt Noise

http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/laws-l...its/laws/noise

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I've had a couple of conversations with our bi-law officer. Our discharge law for our area is basically the provincial standard. 150m from a dwelling, etc.
No laws are being broken, just one guy going around asking neighbors to contact the bi-law officer to complain about the gunshots.
He asked me last fall if I would, I told him my opinion and he didn't like it.
Since then, he's had the officer contact me twice. First time was a couple of days after I told him my opinion.
Second time was recently,about a week after he left a note in my mail box asking me to refrain from shooting on that up coming Saturday as his wife was having a bridal shower and he wanted to have it without disturbance.
I was away that weekend anyways but I found out that one of the many farmers in the area that has gun ranges, was shooting that Saturday, so I guess he blamed me apparently.

I've remarked before, though it won't be a popular view, that this is a bad bill. The reason is that it will criminalize actions that ought not to be regarded as crimes. There is a difference between a mere offence and an actual crime: the severity of the offence. When you commit a crime, you are left with a criminal record, which affects your future employment, your ability to travel outside the country, and so on. Speeding and trespassing are offences; murder is a crime.

The Criminal Code exists to punish those offences that society regards as particularly blameworthy, not as a hammer to be deployed in cultural disputes. Breitkreuz is simply currying political favour by proposing a bill that favours the activities of one constituency by criminalizing those who oppose them. It's not an appropriate use of the criminal law.

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

The addition of sport shooting is exactly whats needed around my place right now. I have neighbors that I believe don't like hunting and are simply hiding their agenda by focusing on noise complaints by sport shooters in the area.

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Making noise complaints will not be a criminal offence under this bill (which, incidentally, is not going to pass anyway), and will never be -- because the Supreme Court would strike that down in a heartbeat. Seriously: making it a crime to complain to police that you believe someone is breaking the law?

The police already have ways of dealing with people who make nuisance complaints.

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Originally Posted by welsh

I've remarked before, though it won't be a popular view, that this is a bad bill. The reason is that it will criminalize actions that ought not to be regarded as crimes.

The police already have ways of dealing with people who make nuisance complaints.

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Right on.

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Originally Posted by welsh

I've remarked before, though it won't be a popular view, that this is a bad bill. The reason is that it will criminalize actions that ought not to be regarded as crimes. There is a difference between a mere offence and an actual crime: the severity of the offence. When you commit a crime, you are left with a criminal record, which affects your future employment, your ability to travel outside the country, and so on. Speeding and trespassing are offences; murder is a crime.

The Criminal Code exists to punish those offences that society regards as particularly blameworthy, not as a hammer to be deployed in cultural disputes. Breitkreuz is simply currying political favour by proposing a bill that favours the activities of one constituency by criminalizing those who oppose them. It's not an appropriate use of the criminal law.



Making noise complaints will not be a criminal offence under this bill (which, incidentally, is not going to pass anyway), and will never be -- because the Supreme Court would strike that down in a heartbeat. Seriously: making it a crime to complain to police that you believe someone is breaking the law?

The police already have ways of dealing with people who make nuisance complaints.

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Yep,not sure what Breitkreuz is up to,but,this thing will never see the light of day. Maybe,he wants a little publicity. Like,maybe,things are kind of quiet in his neck of the woods? LOL