Looking for a church - sort of...

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Sorry but if it's not your faith then it well not do you much good. Some nice people and a man in a funny robe, are not going to effect her as much as peer pressure. If it is not practiced in the home and by the two people that she cares the most about, Sunday school is nothing more then a social group on sunday mornings.

No one can "fix" your kid for you. She will believe what you do, and as you have said you do not believe in anything. That leave the door to her faith open to any religion.

You need to teach her, but I think you had better start studying real hard... A ten year muslum kid could argue you in circle, knows all the tricks. He/she has been training for years.

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Put her into a group with a bunch of southern Baptists if you want another extreme.

OddMott, it is currently Ramadan, this may be why things are currently a little more Islamic. This is a time of reflection and prayer for Muslims, not really any different than Christmas for Christians but with no gifts.

Explain to her the differences but I see where you are going by not wanting to force her into anything while still being guarded that someone else may be pushing her into something.

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Originally Posted by Oddmott

I'm not looking for her to be a Christian (or Islamic or atheist for that matter), i'm simply looking to expose her to something else in order to begin laying the groundwork for future lessons and experience. In the end, it is my hope that she chooses whatever makes her most happy. Whatever that may be has very little bearing on my life.

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What lessons do you want to teach her? She is already getting the lessons in the faith of Islum at school. When are you thinking of teaching her these "FUTURE" lessons? When she's older and in her teens? Just about the right time to rebel against her Infidel parents.

If you want her exposed to something that lays a foundation for her beliefs then just leave things as they are. I am sure that you will think she makes a lovely muslum wife.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Sorry but if it's not your faith then it well not do you much good. Some nice people and a man in a funny robe, are not going to effect her as much as peer pressure. If it is not practiced in the home and by the two people that she cares the most about, Sunday school is nothing more then a social group on sunday mornings.

No one can "fix" your kid for you. She will believe what you do, and as you have said you do not believe in anything. That leave the door to her faith open to any religion.

You need to teach her, but I think you had better start studying real hard... A ten year muslum kid could argue you in circle, knows all the tricks. He/she has been training for years.

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Couldn't agree with you more Snowwalker - on all points.

There's a phrase - "nature abhors a vacuum" and that goes for religious beliefs too.

You reap what you sow - and in the case of having sown nothing - what others sow.

"Whatever that may be has very little bearing on my life."

Really??? My kids are important to me and their choices have a huge bearing on my life. Whether they choose careers that force them to live in large cities, or move great distances away, whether they marry outside of our WASP culture, whether their choice of mates will result in a happy life for them, whether their lifestyles are conducive to a good upbringing for my grandkids - these all affect me.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

You reap what you sow - and in the case of having sown nothing - what others sow.

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I always get a kick out of how the religious automatically equate non-religion with "nothing".

Meh

Distaste for one horse dung religion is no justification for following another horse dung religion, imo.

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Originally Posted by Oddmott

I always get a kick out of how the religious automatically equate non-religion with "nothing".

Meh

Distaste for one horse dung religion is no justification for following another horse dung religion, imo.

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You can call it "horse dung" religion all you want,but,the fact still remains that,as a good parent,we must recognize when children are in danger of radical indoctrination of any "horse dung" religion and act quickly to protect them from that. When teachers at the school fail to prevent what the OP has described,it's time to haul the kids out of there and put them back into the public system where there's a separation of church and state by law. I believe our public system is better than any private system that cowtows to religious radicals.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

You can call it "horse dung" religion all you want,but,the fact still remains that,as a good parent,we must recognize when children are in danger of radical indoctrination of any "horse dung" religion and act quickly to protect them from that. When teachers at the school fail to prevent what the OP has described,it's time to haul the kids out of there and put them back into the public system where there's a separation of church and state by law. I believe our public system is better than any private system that cowtows to religious radicals.

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It used to be. There are numerous examples of the public system allowing Muslim prayer sessions on public school property.
http://savingourfuture.com/2013/08/toronto-school-defends-muslim-prayers-cafeteria/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_896434.html

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

You can call it "horse dung" religion all you want,but,the fact still remains that,as a good parent,we must recognize when children are in danger of radical indoctrination of any "horse dung" religion and act quickly to protect them from that. When teachers at the school fail to prevent what the OP has described,it's time to haul the kids out of there and put them back into the public system where there's a separation of church and state by law. I believe our public system is better than any private system that cowtows to religious radicals.

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I'm the OP. My daughter attends Robert Batemen PUBLIC SCHOOL.

The school doesn't teach any religion... however the majority of students in this area are now of Islamic faith... and they talk about it non-stop during the school day.

You could put her in the catholic system.

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Originally Posted by Hunter John

You could put her in the catholic system.

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You're a funny guy. lol

Who knows... maybe it'll come to such dire straits.

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Originally Posted by Oddmott

You're a funny guy. lol

Who knows... maybe it'll come to such dire straits.

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If home schooling isn't an option,HunterJohn's suggestion shouldn't be discounted,entirely. It's not about your personal atheism. It's about teaching your kids that there's always more than one option. Please understand that I'm not condemning your parenting skills or your personal beliefs. Far be it for me to trifle with your feelings and sensibilities. Quite clearly,the Islamic children are being deeply indocrinated in their faith to the point where other children are being affected. To young impressionable minds,radicalization such as this is NEVER a good thing.