Shortening Up a Big Running Bird dog

Do you guys not need to have your flushing dogs always within gun range?

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Originally Posted by terrym

Do you guys not need to have your flushing dogs always within gun range?

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That's a big 10-4 rubber ducky. I think using an e-collar to keep them in range would be confusing and stressful to the dog. If the dog disobeys the stop or here whistle thats one thing but I don't see how it could be used to keep them within range.

I have never used the e-collar when a bird is in play. Don't want the dog associating birds with corrections. My dog loves wearing his collar. Comes running when he hears it get turned on.

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Originally Posted by Cass

That's a big 10-4 rubber ducky. I think using an e-collar to keep them in range would be confusing and stressful to the dog. If the dog disobeys the stop or here whistle thats one thing but I don't see how it could be used to keep them within range.

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The e collar doesn't keep them in range. The e collar provides correction when needed.

I understand that which is why I said using it for disobeying the stop whistle. I cannot think of any way that would not be confusing to the dog of giving a correction for just "staying in range". But I'm all ears....

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Originally Posted by Cass

I understand that which is why I said using it for disobeying the stop whistle. I cannot think of any way that would not be confusing to the dog of giving a correction for just "staying in range". But I'm all ears....

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There would be no need for correction if the dog is in range. Would be like the whistle around your neck not blown if you don't need the dog to turn right.

I think Sharron's initial question referred to pointing dogs. I might be wrong.

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Originally Posted by terrym

Do you guys not need to have your flushing dogs always within gun range?

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Originally Posted by Grasu200

I think Sharron's initial question referred to pointing dogs. I might be wrong.

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Yes it did

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Originally Posted by Grasu200

I think Sharon's initial question referred to pointing dogs. I might be wrong.

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Always glad to talk about both pointing and flushing dogs in a thread like this. Only annoys me when we are talking about bird dogs ,and someone starts talking their pet rooster. :)

( Actually though, probably no one goes off track more than me . :) )

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Always glad to talk about both pointing and flushing dogs in a thread like this. Only annoys me when we are talking about bird dogs ,and someone starts talking their pet rooster. :)

( Actually though, probably no one goes off track more than me . :) )

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Realistically, a "big running" flusher is just a poorly trained flusher. This thread is about pointers.