15 Health Problems Linked To Monsanto's ROUNDUP.

For all people like to crap on Monsanto - sure they are in the business to make money... but most of their technology advances are geared towards using less chemicals and less toxic ones. More technology using less chemicals.

One real good example of this is neonics. Instead of spraying insecticides a few times a year, they just treat the seeds with an insect specific toxin that gets absorbed into the and only affects insects that eat the plants. Seems like a good idea - but there are many that would prefer we have them go back to spraying insecticides.


And what Monsanto is doing today is a world apart from DDT and agent orange. If anyone feels a need to bring that into the discussion - well it won't be a very intelligent discussion.

For those of you that have been asleep for the past 75 years, the days of mass produced non-GMO, no-chemical use crops ended early in the post WW2 years, and there's no turning back the clock. Forwards is the only direction we can go.

I wonder how local, or organic farmers are supposed to feed the province, country or world. And even if we tried on a tiny, wee small scale, how much water, land...what it would cost the consumer and more.

Sometimes wonder when people will realize that we live in an imperfect world and that Utopia does not and will never exist and the only option is workable, pratical solutions and not pie in the sky.

And when we will realize that if we truly want to save the world, we will all line up and get snipped.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

For all people like to crap on Monsanto - sure they are in the business to make money... but most of their technology advances are geared towards using less chemicals and less toxic ones. More technology using less chemicals.

One real good example of this is neonics. Instead of spraying insecticides a few times a year, they just treat the seeds with an insect specific toxin that gets absorbed into the and only affects insects that eat the plants. Seems like a good idea - but there are many that would prefer we have them go back to spraying insecticides.


And what Monsanto is doing today is a world apart from DDT and agent orange. If anyone feels a need to bring that into the discussion - well it won't be a very intelligent discussion.

For those of you that have been asleep for the past 75 years, the days of mass produced non-GMO, no-chemical use crops ended early in the post WW2 years, and there's no turning back the clock. Forwards is the only direction we can go.

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I think this is a good post. You can generally tell by the title saying "Monsanto's Roundup" rather than just "Roundup"; that this probably comes from the Monsanto hating crowd and they're pretty reckless with their "science".

For comparison, lets bring in another " Wonder Drug ".
Lipitor, everyone has heard of it and perhaps many are using it , prescribed by your Doctor.
Lipitor the drug/chemical that was the highest selling prescription drug at the time till the patent ran out [ 1985 till 2011] it made billions for Phizer Pharmaceuticals.
Doctors were prescribing it left ,right , and center till many adverse effects were harming peoples health and lately it made the National News again , TV. Radio and the newspapers.
Lipitor is directly connected with Type 2 Diabetes in women, now there is a multi million dollar class action lawsuit initiated against Phizer Pharmaceuticals .
This has been brought to a head because it involves us humans directly, but is just another case where a chemical was DEEMED SAFE by the Food and DRUG Administration , and after many years of use and studies, has been found to have very sever consequences involving our health.
I still have serious doubts as to Who Do You Believe ? the big drug/chemical co.'s that are pushing for the big dollar or the people that are doing the research and are finding that these wonder drugs/chemicals are causing serious harm to the environment and consequently to us the final recipient.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

For all people like to crap on Monsanto - sure they are in the business to make money... but most of their technology advances are geared towards using less chemicals and less toxic ones. More technology using less chemicals.

One real good example of this is neonics. Instead of spraying insecticides a few times a year, they just treat the seeds with an insect specific toxin that gets absorbed into the and only affects insects that eat the plants. Seems like a good idea - but there are many that would prefer we have them go back to spraying insecticides.


And what Monsanto is doing today is a world apart from DDT and agent orange. If anyone feels a need to bring that into the discussion - well it won't be a very intelligent discussion.

For those of you that have been asleep for the past 75 years, the days of mass produced non-GMO, no-chemical use crops ended early in the post WW2 years, and there's no turning back the clock. Forwards is the only direction we can go.

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Maybe for insecticide use this is true, but the most common GMO crops used today are corn and soy and are "round up ready" allowing massive spraying of the herbicide. I'm pretty sure glyphosate use is going up overall these days... They are not designed for insect resistance...

As for mass produced chemical crops after WW2 this may be true, but mass produced GMO is very recent, less than 20 yrs. It has not been around since WW2. Before there were hybrid seeds and special breeding programs, but not inserting foreign genes from another organism into the DNA code in a lab, this is extremely new and potentially unknown technology that many countries have banned to date... We have been selective breeding for 1000's of years, GMO is very recent and definately not the same, although some try and say it is!

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Originally Posted by intothedeep

Maybe for insecticide use this is true, but the most common GMO crops used today are corn and soy and are "round up ready" allowing massive spraying of the herbicide. I'm pretty sure glyphosate use is going up overall these days... They are not designed for insect resistance...

As for mass produced chemical crops after WW2 this may be true, but mass produced GMO is very recent, less than 20 yrs. It has not been around since WW2. Before there were hybrid seeds and special breeding programs, but not inserting foreign genes from another organism into the DNA code in a lab, this is extremely new and potentially unknown technology that many countries have banned to date... We have been selective breeding for 1000's of years, GMO is very recent and definately not the same, although some try and say it is!

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They are all GMO, if you modify them over time by selective breeding or modify them in a lab it makes no difference.

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Originally Posted by flowerjohn

Non GMO plants cannot withstand the direct application of roundup. It is a non specific herbicide. Ask a niagara farmer what it's like to farm in the vicinity of a GMO cornfield he will tell you what his crop losses look like when GMO fields are sprayed with roundup and the wind is blowing the wrong way.

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I am aware of how round up works and have a pesticide applicator license for the last 30 years. Round Up ready seed does not require spraying during the growing season. I have spot sprayed many hundreds of acres using an IPM Integrated Pest Mnagement approach on planting untreated seed during the growing period. IPM is the best method used to use much less chemicals if any using alternative farming methods to control weeds and plant pest.

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Originally Posted by Fox

They are all GMO, if you modify them over time by selective breeding or modify them in a lab it makes no difference.

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I respectfully disagree Mr Fox:). GMO sticks genes from other organisms/speacies into the plant or animal. It can be from a bacteria, or an animal like a fish and they stick it in... Selective breeding just chooses traits they want and breed or choose plants that have those traits. Huge difference, but again the biotech companies would like you to believe it makes no difference... But all the banning world wide doesn't agree:)

They have spent millions of dollars defeating labeling laws like in California and now federally, if they have such confidence in the product why go to those extremes?

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I am aware of how round up works and have a pesticide applicator license for the last 30 years. Round Up ready seed does not require spraying during the growing season. I have spot sprayed many hundreds of acres using an IPM Integrated Pest Mnagement approach on planting untreated seed during the growing period. IPM is the best method used to use much less chemicals if any using alternative farming methods to control weeds and plant pest.

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I'm glad you told me you are a pesticide guy. Now I have a million questions yellow. I have a garden centre and we sell locally grown produce from niagara and southwestern Ontario. I am asked questions about pesticide use and organic designation all the time so I am always asking questions. If I may? What is an ipm? And in your knowledge is it widely used on food crops. I know that many growers of ornamental plant have opted for bio controls and they seem to be quite happy with the results so far. Thanks. J.

Ipm is "integrated pest message" in a nut she'll it's a scientific calculation of when to spray.. done by ratios of bugs per x (area) keeps spray use to a minimum and keeps costs down. All the farmers in the marsh here where I live practice this. Dropped spray down from once a week to sometimes a month+