That's up to you, but I wouldn't even feed it to the bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marker
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That's up to you, but I wouldn't even feed it to the bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marker
Best wishes for your nephew's full recovery. I suspect that in the types of cases that make the news, dogs are quarantined because they are considered property and governed by property law...or perhaps health laws, so it is an issue of due process. Also, some people have a difficult time making the judgment to put down a "family member" even tho it may be the right thing to do...quarantine gives the owners time to get over the shock, particularly if the attack was completely out of pattern. As to dogs riding in a back of a pickup truck or untethered in a vehicle with wide open windows...in the US some states are attempting to ban the practice.
not the same states that let bikers ride with NO helmuts...LOL..Quote:
Originally Posted by spinster
Or so you'd think. I saw bikers in Nevada with no helmets but apparently NV requires dogs in pickup beds to be tethered..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Restraint Laws
At least eight states have laws requiring owners to kennel or tether dogs or other animals that ride in a vehicle's open areas, usually a truck bed, according to the Connecticut General Assembly. As of 2009, states with restraint laws include Connecticut, California, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Nevada, Washington, Oregon and Rhode Island. Fines range from $50 to $200.
https://www.change.org/p/careless-do...-beds-uncrated
I think I see the conflicting positions of which you are speaking . In one case, we do everything possible to save an animal( quarantine), and on the other hand animals are treated so poorly as to make an imminent death possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugo
That humans for you. No fast rules when it comes to how we do or don't value an animal ( or a baby for that matter).
http://www.lfpress.com/2015/07/24/lo...-for-two-weeks
You and I , I believe , consider a dog an animal - to be enjoyed and treated kindly. However, puttiing down a dog who has shown itself to be a risk , is something we are fully prepared to do.
Very sorry to hear about your nephew. That dog wouldn't be in quarantine if it was my dog - or yours I would bet.
PS
Even when you think you have considered every possible safety net required......
Tessa almost hung herself the other night. Who thinks to take the collar off when you crate a dog? After thrashing around to get comfortable, as she does, her collar got caught up on the crate bars. If it wasn't for the JRT making a racket.............
Would it surprise you to know that you have been ingesting Glycol in your medications and some of the foods you are eating !Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
1.1 What is propylene glycol?
Propylene glycol is a synthetic liquid substance that absorbs water. Propylene glycol is also used to make polyester compounds, and as a base for deicing solutions. Propylene glycol is used by the chemical, food, and pharmaceutical industries as an antifreeze when leakage might lead to contact with food. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has classified propylene glycol as an additive that is "generally recognized as safe" for use in food. It is used to absorb extra water and maintain moisture in certain medicines, cosmetics, or food products. It is a solvent for food colors and flavors, and in the paint and plastics industries. Propylene glycol is also used to create artificial smoke or fog used in fire-fighting training and in theatrical productions. Other names for propylene glycol are 1,2-dihydroxypropane, 1,2-propanediol, methyl glycol, and trimethyl glycol.
Propylene glycol is clear, colorless, slightly syrupy liquid at room temperature. It may exist in air in the vapor form, although propylene glycol must be heated or briskly shaken to produce a vapor. Propylene glycol is practically odorless and tasteless.
Link;http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1120&tid=240
This is not the ethylene glycol used in antifreeze!
Could we stick to the thread topic gentlemen please?
Ugo, best wishes to your nephew. Sharon, I am glad your b1tch is OK. I never leave dogs with collars unattended and I always worry if they go swimming with a collar, I am usually fully prepared to jump in to get the dog untangled (which I have done a week ago - fishing line).
Re how we treat dogs. 'you can't fix stupid' - some people do stupid (and dangerous) things with their dogs and in general. It doesn't matter much if there are rules in places. I am a believer in common sense and individual responsibility, not 'nanny state'. But what do I know, I am a bloody foreigner ;)
E.g. just a few days ago few teenagers started bonfire in pine tree stand in my subdivision. 30+ heat, everything bone dry, pine burns pretty well. A fire like that can spread in minutes and burn not just the woods, but the houses (and people) too.
Illegal - you bet, but most importantly - extremely stupid. And this is supposed to be good neighborhood.
Ugo, speedy recovery to your nephew and trust long term fears of dogs will be avoided.
Stupidity of humans in not understanding the proper care of animals. We see supposedly clever political legislator's being duked into passing laws originating from ill-informed anti activists on the use of e-collars, prong collars, docking of tails, and other animal welfare. We see children, pets left in automobiles in 30 degree weather I can for see in the future insurance companies after dealing with law suites asking a premium from owners of dogs. That will also come with legislation that owners of dogs MUST pass a licencing program on the care of a dog. Sorry folks, we can not fix stupid so legislation will educate stupid hopefully, or prohibit stupid from acquiring pets.
Dick
Ugo speedy recovery to your nephew. I gave up a long time ago trying to inform why it's unsafe to put a dog or dogs in the back of a pick-up tethered or not tethered. These people are in my opinion experience are not reasonable and lack common sense. Best not to approach them because it could explode into a violent confrontation.