Zimbabwe lion

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Originally Posted by welsh

That's an obnoxious euphemism and most of the general public views it as such. I do not harvest animals; I kill them.

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No..the annual hunts are called a 'Harvest' by the MNR...and the results of the hunt and are published as a Harvest Report..not a kill report. The word accurately describes what the group of hunters has accomplished during the annual Hunt to control the number of deer.

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Originally Posted by ET1

In this case I agree with you on your thoughts.
I don’t just kill animals for the sake of killing but to harvest their meat or for pest control.

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Nicely put Ed...you kill an animal as part of the annual Harvest. Either term is acceptable and I believe interchangeable dependent on the intended audience and situation.

As a farmer I kill/slaughter the animals I have raised as part of the annual Harvest here on the farm. However, I use the term 'harvest' when discussing my activities when I'm in a group setting with people who might be more sensitive to the harsher terms.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Please, no. That's an obnoxious euphemism and most of the general public views it as such. I do not harvest animals; I kill them. Using Orwellian euphemisms to hide the truth is tantamount to admitting that killing animals is wrong. I am frank with people: I kill animals for food. I don't get hassled about it.



Not to take this off-topic, but the CRTC didn't take CITR off the air. The CRTC simply relaxed the CanCon rules and allowed market forces to dictate what would be on the air, as the federal government directed.

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I'm sure with you on this one. Disingenuous "politically correct" terms are offensive to most. It makes us look like we're trying to hind something and immediately can be used to put us on the defensive which is a very bad position to be in. I never miss an opportunity to educate people,especially,those who deliberately attempt to take some perceived moral high ground with condescending comments.

Personally I'm ashamed of our society. Kids die each day of malnutrition all over the world. Yet our media ignore that. They are still talking about a lion that was supposedly taken illegally. One lion seems to be much more important than all these children. Our world is messed up!

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I'm sure with you on this one. Disingenuous "politically correct" terms are offensive to most....

I never miss an opportunity to educate people,especially,those who deliberately attempt to take some perceived moral high ground with condescending comments.

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The Term 'Harvest' is not politically correct...it is the correct word used to describe the activities of hunters.

You will have a far more receptive audience, if you're trying to educate them, if you use a vocabulary that doesn't offend them. Sitting around the camp etc with the guys, 'kill' works fine but if your in mixed company there are better choice of words to help get your point across.

Most don't mind hunting at all but they just don't like someone going a cross the word to kill for a head, skin or a set of antlers. Can't really blame them, hard to understand the thrill for a non hunter, even me I don't.
In my office I'm pretty much the only hunter, they all know I kill because I like to eat good food. Everybody knows that the meat at the grocery store isn't that good so it doesn't take much for others to understand why I get my own meat.
Sounds like some of you are wasting to time talking about killing vs harvesting! It doesn't matter antis are just like us, not all that stupid, so all you are doing is trying to make like you are not ending the life of an animal. Kind of coward, no?

"Harvest" as used by MNR is a management term that denotes the collective take by hunters. When you apply it to an individual act, it is a euphemism.

People are not stupid. They understand that by using the word "harvest" you are being manipulative.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The Term 'Harvest' is not politically correct...it is the correct word used to describe the activities of hunters.

You will have a far more receptive audience, if you're trying to educate them, if you use a vocabulary that doesn't offend them. Sitting around the camp etc with the guys, 'kill' works fine but if your in mixed company there are better choice of words to help get your point across.

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Terms like "wild game harvester" isn't a politically correct euphamism? I disagree,MikePal. Tell it the way it is. We're hunters,pure and simple.

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Originally Posted by welsh

it is a euphemism.

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Yes it is a euphemism, but it's not 'obnoxious' and is perfectly acceptable to use when the situation warrants a little tact. It's not manipulative, it's being cognoscente of others sensibilities, it's what a gentleman does in mixed company.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

We're hunters,pure and simple.

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Well if you want to "tell it like it is" ..then we're 'Killers' not Hunters...why elevate it higher than it needs to be right ..LOL

It was my mother that explained the nuances of conversation to me way back when I was regaling her with the story of my first 'kill'. She said it was crude and she would like me to use different language...lesson learned.

It is not tactful to insult people's intelligence with Orwellian doublespeak borrowed from the mouths of bureaucrats.