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Dont put all the 'Stack-On' in the same boat.
I have both a standard Stack On and an Elite Stack On Vault from Canadian Tire. At 500lbs pounds empty and triple rod door lock, it would take more than a few minutes to either get it out of the house or get to its content.
Best affordable safe I could find.
Have a 900 lb ( empty ) fire rated safe down stair's No one is getting in let alone walking off with it. I'd be more upset if they scratched it trying to?
Homack 8-gun steel cabinet for me,stashed in a closet and fastened to the wall so it can't tip forward. I don't think I need anything elaborate,just enough to discourage the younguns from getting foolish ideas. Besides,they know if they ever did,they wouldn't be able to sit down for a day or two.
No 500 lb safe for me - got guns laying all over the house - some loaded - no one would dare come to my house to steal anything - its called suicide - if a crook wants a gun bad enough there are a lot safer ways of getting one - boy it sounds like they got you gun owners really nailed to the wall - remember the old saying - if for security you give up liberty, you end up with neither -
Leaving loaded guns all over the house has gotten a lot of people accidently killed that should be still walking this Earth,90% of whom are innocent children. That's why it is one of the main cornerstones of all our firearms regulations that all firearms MUST be secured without exception and as a condition of ownership. Is it really that bad down there that a citizen must expect a home invasion attack every waking minute to the point you feel it necessary to have loaded guns in every room of the house at the ready at all times? Jeezus Murphy,what a way to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
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Originally Posted by trimmer21
Okay where does this come from....nowhere in any report does it say that these firearms were loaded and left laying around...all reports I have read indicate that these firearms were 'legally' locked up...in my humble opinion, a restricted firearm should be trigger locked and locked in a proper safe, not a locked cabinet which can be easily accessed with a few common tools...I do have long guns locked in a 'gun' cabinet and they are all trigger locked and my handguns are all trigger locked in a proper safe that would take 3 -4 people to remove from my residence and god knows who long it would take them to break into the safe, that is of course, if they even got it out of my residence as it is fully secured to the floor and walls....just saying...............
I'm really not advocating to have a loaded gun in every room, but I had a friend whose father always had his hunting rifle loaded hanging on the wall. That was long before there were any rules (and this was more or less the standard practice). The interesting part is that his father owned a pub (of the worst kind) and the rifle was accessible to absolutely everyone. There was rarely a night without a serious bar fight.
Nobody (back then) would even have considered touching the rifle. Many been in the war and they understood what it meant to kill somebody.
If I had young kids around I would make sure they didn't get a hold of them - a small safe with a combination would do - but inside would be a loaded gun - so I grab it if needed - you don't realize how many people save themselves from harm by being able to grab a gun - yes things are pretty bad especially in the big cities - these places are almost like war zones -
They estimate that there are over 300 million guns owned by people in the U.S. - most are good people but not all - the situation is such that you can't take away people's guns because there are so many and there is no way of taking them away from criminals - so we live with this fact - and we arm ourselves just in case -
More and more people are getting permits to carry because of the crime - especially women - it is sad that it is that way but what are you going to do - as I already mentioned we Americans are in love with guns - its in our blood - most of our movie heroes were gun slingers - heck every kid thought they were John Wayne at one time or another - shooting up a storm -
People that are not familiar with guns have a certain fear of them but you got to remember that a lot of guys served in the military at one time or another - many are hunters - so having a gun around the house is no big deal -
Theres a guy on CGN whos house was broken into and the stack-on stopped a thief. He posted pics and all of the attempted robbery.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
3 or 4 people to move it? Helped a buddy move a couple of weeks back, took 5 of us to move it, and that was with the door removed! A couple of guys just to move the door with a dolly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brampton Mike