So, it really was about the money?

Well that's where I try to separate teachers (or any other field in PS) from the Unions. But yes obviously Terry the union doesn't care, not about the peons, not about whats occurring in Ont, not about the kids (funny how no mention of what's going to be cut to find the $) comes from their lips.

And oh isn't the timing of all this just peachy. When JT looks to be on the ropes and Wynne needs storm troopers, and $ for ads and

What a crock.
Teachers used to get respect. And they wonder why the public hates them now. No one to blame but their Union

With the Liberal Provincial electoral machine, PS union money from both the Province and Feds attacking Harper, mix in the media and CBC he doesn't have a chance. Prepare yourself for an NDP government in Ottawa and a crooked Liberal one in Queen's Park. If you are on the public payroll its the lottery win. If not your standard of living is spiralling into the hopper. It was just leaked that Wynne suppressed FOI requests about her plans for toll roads in Ontario. This was hidden from the public prior to the election but is about yo be introduced. It seems every day there is some new lie or coverup and she just cackles as she gives us the bird.
What people don't realize is that PS unions are now running the country. Why does the head of a "Ontario" teacher's union rallying opposition to a Federal party have to do with working conditions of its dues paying membership? Education is Provincial jurisdiction. They rule Ontario and are about to rule Canada.

Not sure about ruling Cda but am sick of it, their defenders etc. It's pretty damn obvious who pulls the strings, who gets greased and why.

Who pays for it all.
Not sure how many can sleep at night, especially in light of all the problems, things and people being "ignored" and more.

Yeah. You and me pay for it all. That's why we need our sleep. Nose to the grindstone.

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I take exception to your remark! It's the other end of the horse that she truly resembles!

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LMAO well said but a real insult to a horse...what do people expect from a LYING LIEBERAL who just BUYS her votes vs earning them! Time to get rid of that PHONY BIITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well BM, though there are signs more people are fed up with corruption and um, obvious "favouritism". And now that the years of waste, spending, bloat and brain cramps (Hydro) are coming home roost as predicted but many more refused to see/beleivue..and it's hitting people hard..

Will still have the puppet masters and their minions who think they are the only people in Ont behind them.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

I take exception to your remark! It's the other end of the horse that she truly resembles!

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Either one is fitting Bullmoose as well as Lieberal crook.

I found a better use for the face and neck picture. Open picture on computer, stretch the neck, pull the nose in Photoshop...voila, instant Turkey pattern target. Life like and enjoyable to shoot with a laugh each time. Ensure to print on paper before shooting...you only make that mistake once...lol.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

That remark really made my day ! Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.:goodstuff::goodstuff::goodstuff:

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I am not surprised. It was leaked last month that the teachers wanted more money. I am also not surprised that the media has spun this 'net-zero' raise as a great thing. Great for the kids, great for teachers. Lets all sing and dance.

Let's take a look at what is really going on. First off, there are some 78000 teachers as part of this agreement. I would offer their average salary is $70K/year with a final raise of 2.5% ... $136,500,000.00 I don't believe that this will be a net-zero scenario. Where are they going to find $136.5M? This government can't find their arses with both hands. The sheep will simply look at the 2.5% and think "Oh, well not that much!"

Is there something wrong with my math? Am I thinking there is something not right here? Yup... more smoke and mirrors - lies and deception. Oh and yes, I am not surprised!

Using these assumptions.
78,000 ESST teachers
$65,000 average salary today.

Net cost in salary will be $127,766,535.

Consider to, that as each Teachers salary increases, so to does their Pension Benefit.
Consider to, that the improved benefits will have a price tag, as will the sick time.

Total Cost?
Who knows, 300million? 400million?
As I said earlier, this contract (factoring the different Unions) alone may cost as much or more than what the MNR/MoE get combined in total.


As individuals I have quite a bit of respect for the teachers I know. However I don't think they really have a grasp on reality (what life is like for others) but collectively as a group and their Union. No respect.

I cant think of any/many occasions when their contracts have come up and they haven't thrown a tantrum like spoiled brats, whose parents refuse to buy them the candy in the check out line. And they already live lives that are more than comfortable.


Couple that, with the Unions political involvement in elections, their entrenchment at Queens Park, the fact they are largely responsible for things.................

Hence my utter disdain/dislike for PS Unions and their hiprocisy about being champions of the working class. They are breaking the middle classes back.