I've seen them lost with just about everything--especially arrows.
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I've seen them lost with just about everything--especially arrows.
If I'm hunting close range (under 75yds.) in thick bush,I'll use my 45/70 Marlin. I simply want enough to anchor it on the spot. If I'm doing the spot and stalk thing (like almost always) on bush trails and roads,I use 30-06 Spr Ruger M77 for longer shots still wanting it to not go far,if at all.
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Originally Posted by brown
Here's my thoughts on the matter, the old buffalo hunters use to work with about 1600 ft-lbs of energy with the old black powder buffalo rifles, and they were capable of taking down a buffalo. With a 270 Win. and a 150 grain bullet traveling at 2842 fps your knocking back something in the order of about 2700 ft-lbs of energy. What's do you imagine are your odds of taken down an animal about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of a buffalo. Jacques Herter once took on a grizzly with a 243 Win. the first round he fired broke up on the bears chest cavity, and pissed him off, confronted with a charging bear his second round hit him high on the forehead and blew up destroying part of his brain. It stop the grizzly. Arguably is was a pretty dumb thing to do. However, he took the view: "I wanted to see what it (a 243 Win) would do, to a bear; you never know until you try."
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I saw a bear taken at our camp with a 7mm-08. The slug got lodged in the hide on the opposite side and never exited. That said, the bear didn't go very far.
A couple of years ago I posted the ballistic charts for the ammo I was using in my .270, the speed and impact values we almost equal out to 150 yds. after that the .270 values exceeded those of the 30-06. That said, I fail to see how the .270 is only good on bears at short range. Both bullets in that comparison were 150 gr. The damage in any of the deer I have shot with my .270 is comparable to those shot with a 30-06.
I'm selective with my ammunition, but I don't see any problem in using a .270. For short range. I have a 35 Remington.
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You are good to go. I would reccomend a stout bullet that the rifle shoots well.
It will certainly do the trick (just as well as a 30/06 or a 308) . --- I know of a ~ 300 lbs. "Blacky" that was taken with a 22WMR (head-shot) . --- Years ago (when we were still allowed to hunt with handguns) this hunter left his rifle at the camp-site (just before dark) , grabbed 2 pails and walked down to the river (~ 200 yards away) . After filling them he started to climb up-hill again . Within ~ 50 yards from the water he suddenly heard a "clicking sound" and noticed some movement in the under-brush (to his left) . He quickly set the pails down and drew his handgun (Ruger Single Six Convertible) . At that time he was still using 22WMR-solids because they weren't as destructive as HPs (for Grouse etc.) . In later years he switched to BB- and CB-caps (less noise) . --- Anyway , the Bear was only ~ 15' away (clicking it's teeth) . The hunter aimed at the head (in dim light) and hit the Bear into the right eye . It dropped instantly . --- That year (1965) we harvested 3 Moose and 1 Bear . --- It seems as if it had happened only yesterday . --- I still have pictures of that Bear . --- Among the 4 of us one hunter took a bull + cow , the other a bull + Bear . --- I kept the hide (on the living-room-floor) until 1993 and then gave it away . --- Memorieeeees !!! --- During those days I always carried my Ruger on the hip while Deer- , Bear- or Moose-hunting .Quote:
Originally Posted by brown
Yes. I'm fairly new to the rifle thing but I've taken 3 bears with a .270. Closet one was 150 yards. Furthest one went after the shot was 40 yards. I was using 150gr Winchester power point ammo.
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270 ballistics are almost the same as the 30-06. The 270 is actually suited for the same distance as a 30-06.
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Originally Posted by The Phoenix
I have both,so,it's always a toss up which one to take. The only difference is a 30-06 can load a heavier bullet than a .270,delivering more knock down at the same range.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
While I know a number of people who have taken moose with a .270, a 30-06 with the heavier bullet would be better. That said the polymer tipped bullets are amazing, higher ballistic coefficient and better expansion. I've been using Winchester XP3s and I was impressed by what they did to that 10pointer I got in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
With those, the last thing to cross a bear's mind would be his A-hole.
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