Using sound moderators in Canada

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Originally Posted by welsh

That's one of the strange ironies of our gun laws.

In North America, with plenty of wide open space to shoot, "silencers" became illegal because of the assumption they would be useful mostly to criminals -- an assumption fueled in large part by Hollywood. There is no meaningful movement to change this.

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They don't even silence, they suppress, nothing a subsonic load in any rifle cannot do.

It is up there with making a 20in barrelled 223 restricted or prohibited because it looks like a gun used to fight wars.

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Originally Posted by Fox

They don't even silence, they suppress, nothing a subsonic load in any rifle cannot do.

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I think everyone here is aware of that.

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Originally Posted by dukesarcher

Can take out a lot of deer with a silencer though

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Deer aren't that bothered by the sound of gunfire, they don't seem to make the association of it to danger. Many a time I have fired with in proximity to small group of deer and all they do is look up and they go back to eating.

So a 'moderator' would have no added benefit to hunting, unless you trying to keep humans from hearing it.

More to the point, the rifle is still going to be noisy enough to startle a group of deer you're shooting at. If you're on the receiving end, the sound of the bullet going past at supersonic speed is much louder than the thump of the gun firing.

The chief benefit is to your own hearing, in the long term. Also some reduced potential for complaints about the noise. This is something I'd like to see our firearms organizations work on, but it doesn't seem to be on their radar.

I get why, due to the criminal aspect, but in Europe they use them as hunting is close to homes and gun fire is a nuisance, we have the same crap here, shotgun only zones for deer have complaints all the time for people shooting.

The biggest complaint I hear from anti's is they hear gunshots and think they're in danger. This is why bowhunting is more widely accepted. If they don't see the kills or hear the shots then all is good for us and them. Some guns are so loud the shooter has more damage then the animal he's shooting at! Increase the fines for poaching and lets get this suppression issue legalized!

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Deer aren't that bothered by the sound of gunfire, they don't seem to make the association of it to danger. Many a time I have fired with in proximity to small group of deer and all they do is look up and they go back to eating.

So a 'moderator' would have no added benefit to hunting, unless you trying to keep humans from hearing it.

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This is so true a couple years ago I shot a whole "flock" of deer during the controlled season (yes we had enough tags) in about two minutes. They just took a couple steps and looked back each step.

Suppressors being banned in Canada has nothing to do with wildlife. Its because the government thinks we suddenly become mass murderers if we have one. The same people that believe this also think that a 5 cent rivet in a magazine will prevent someone from using a high capacity magazine in an illegal fashion, or that a registry paper somehow prevents a murder.

The UK has some of the toughest and most ridiculous gun laws on earth, but getting a moderator is pretty standard tbh.

Handguns and semi-automatic rifles are prohibited though.

Go figure....

blasted_sabre nailed it.