Bill S-231 to be retabled - BYE BYE semi's

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Originally Posted by pinepointer

Remember the pushback on retaining the gun registry in Quebec from Liberal MNA's who got an earful from their constituents. I suspect an even bigger national pushback would happen for this proposal. She is lumping hunting semi's together with 'black' tactical semi's.

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I doubt she knows or cares about the difference!

I doubt (but have been wrong) it will pass now but they have and will keep coming up with this. The Resolution has come up from various groups in the party in the past. If you watch the video posted awhile ago showing the meeting where they talked about it the problem seemed to be it would cost them votes more than anything. Australia cut up all the pumps too and a lever action was used in the parliament attack so no telling how far SOME would like to go. There is a better picture with a Browning A5 right in the middle.... one of my someday guns, but here is a pic I found in a quick search.
http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtrib.../AUS_guns1.jpg

https://www.ofah.org/downloads/PDF/N...s42Hotline.pdf
Liberal Party of Canada’s Resolution #42WHEREAS automatic and semiautomatic weapons are illegal
for hunting purposes; and
WHEREAS automatic and semi automatic weapons do not
support the hunting culture found in all parts of Canada;
BE IT RESOLVED that the Liberal Party of Canada urges the
Government of Canada to support legislation to eliminate the
personal use of automatic and semi automatic weapons
National Women’s Liberal Commission Liberal Party of Nova Scotia


Young Liberals resolution 151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsqquJfCHSM

and let's not forget what is going on Quebec right now...

http://montrealgazette.com/news/queb...raw-to-a-close
Gun registry is necessary, Coiteux insists

Public Security Minister Martin Coiteux wrapped up public hearings on Quebec’s proposed gun registry Tuesday by hinting at some amendments to Bill 64.



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Lunch time .... found the picture I was looking for. An Browning A5 in there, looks like an SKS top right
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/443...x1-700x700.jpg

Also found this one you can see M1, M1 Carbine, FN, a couple ARs, an AK, looks like a Ruger on the right there, something with a scope still on it in the middle ... and one that looks like my Dad's Speedmaster .22... what a waste!
http://static6.businessinsider.com/i...-plummeted.jpg

''Our gun buyback took about a fifth of our guns out of circulation but it approximately halved the number of gun-owning households,'' said Andrew Leigh, the author of an academic study on Australia's gun reform.


That would be between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 Canadian firearms.





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In Surrey BC RCMP are checking RPAL owners to reduce gang violence... Listen at 1:12.
https://soundcloud.com/brianlilley/r...et-access-fall

I honestly think its just a matter of time ( one more majority mandate actually ) before the liberals attack legal gun owners. We are spread out too thin and are too small a group to fight at the polls. Politically we are outgunned.

Well you guys can always do what they did in Connecticut - they recently passed some kind of gun registration bill but 90% of gun owners are ignoring the law - it's pretty tough to arrest thousands of people

I know one thing for sure if there was ever a registration requirement passed down here I and millions of people would not register our guns because once they know who has them then they can come for them - people have to stand up against their government in times like this

We have pal up here they know who have guns now. It's the illegal ones that don't know and who won't turn them in

Any bill that is introduced and passed in the Senate is kicked down to the House of Commons for approval. There is no way this bill will be passed. Even with a liberal majority. There are way too many MP's outside the cities with gun owning constituents.

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Originally Posted by arclight

Any bill that is introduced and passed in the Senate is kicked down to the House of Commons for approval. There is no way this bill will be passed. Even with a liberal majority. There are way too many MP's outside the cities with gun owning constituents.

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That's what the Australian's said.

The new bill is S-223 and the first reading.... how does that song go.... na na na NA na na na NA hey hey good-bye...

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicati...&DocId=8177232




circumscribed firearm means
(a) a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,
(b) a firearm — other than a prohibited firearm — that has a barrel equal to or less than 470 mm,
(c) a firearm — other than a prohibited firearm — that is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner, or
(d) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise;




hunting firearm means a firearm — other than a prohibited firearm or a circumscribed firearm — that is prescribed to be a hunting firearm and that
(a) has a smoothbore barrel that is more than 470 mm long,
(b) has a striated barrel that is more than 470 mm long and that can discharge 22-calibre rimfire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner, or
(c) is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise;

Media seems to be lining up... look at what they are calling a 'sniper' rifle.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...-metres-police

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...-foo-1.3542673



Off an NFA post... it wasn't the NFA itself that posted it but from my quick read it seems pretty close to right and the person posting it made the statements based on their interpretation.

The main features of Bill S-223 are as follows:
1. Current firearms categories are replaced with:
a. Hunting firearms;
b. Circumscribed firearms; and
c. Prohibited firearms.
2. Unlike now, “prohibited firearm” is the new “default category”. If a particular firearm is not included in one of the other two categories, it is “prohibited” by default.
3. To qualify as a “hunting firearm”, government approval will be required by way of Order in Council for any specific model.
4. “Circumscribed firearms” include current “restricted firearms”, as well as all center-fire semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, other than .22 rimfire rifles.
5. As a result of re-classification to “circumscribed firearms”, all semi-automatic shotguns and rifles will become illegal for hunting purposes.
6. Except for collection purposes, possession of “circumscribed firearms” will only be allowed at shooting clubs and registered storage facilities. The owner of such a firearm will not even be allowed to transport it himself, or keep it at home.
7. This bill is meant to come into effect one year after its royal sanction. In essence, firearms owners will have one year to register their semi-auto rifles and shotguns, and find a suitable storage facility (few of which currently exist) to store them, along with their handguns and other restricted/prohibited firearms.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

As a private member's bill,this thing will never see the light of day. She's just another goof Quebec Liberal trying to make a big noise.

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LIEbrals might like this, push it through, as no one can blame the government, just a private member's bill.

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Originally Posted by PaulR

LIEbrals might like this, push it through, as no one can blame the government, just a private member's bill.

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I'm pretty sure the Liberal control room is paying very close attention to the hunting/target shooting community's vigilance and aren't about to rock the boat anytime soon. There's too many people still watching who still have open wounds and long memories.

Damn most of us here fit that bill. Hell I even have a blr that looks just like that......